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Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 11:19 PM Feb 2020

Trump was not acquitted

I don't like that term. Legalese is not my native language, but it seems to me that the correct description should be a hung jury. Less than two thirds voted to acquit.

That's my interpretation of the Constitution.

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Trump was not acquitted (Original Post) Cartoonist Feb 2020 OP
Maybe Ohiogal Feb 2020 #1
There was no motion to acquit that could have gotten 2/3 vote. Igel Feb 2020 #2
So Clinton wasn't acquitted either??? Polybius Feb 2020 #3
Per the Constitution 2/3rds is for conviction only. AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #4
Well, the experts interpret it differently. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #5
he was certainly not declared innocent. panader0 Feb 2020 #6
That's what I'm saying Cartoonist Feb 2020 #7

Igel

(35,272 posts)
2. There was no motion to acquit that could have gotten 2/3 vote.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 11:35 PM
Feb 2020

The only motion was to convict. It failed because too many voted "not guilty".

It's a privative, not an equipollent, opposition. There is no ambiguity, no third option--like at trial, you're either guilty or you're something else. And since whatever that something else may be is something that's not "guilty", we call that something "not guilty."

It's been pointed out a lot: Juries do not declare somebody innocent. OJ was "not guilty", Clinton was "not guilty".

Polybius

(15,333 posts)
3. So Clinton wasn't acquitted either???
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 11:42 PM
Feb 2020

The constitution says if it's less than 2/3rds voting Yes, it is indeed acquittal.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
4. Per the Constitution 2/3rds is for conviction only.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 02:28 PM
Feb 2020

The CJ declared it an acquittal. Legalese IS his "native language"

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