Have you ever had a right winger say to you

[Ohiogal]

"Now you know how we felt when Obama was president"?

[Dan]

1. Answer no,

But I am a POC.

Have you ever asked them to expand on that comment and if so, what was their response.

[CurtEastPoint]

2. Good response. "No. Tell me why you felt that way..." And watch the awkwardness and silence

[Ohiogal]

10. They make up this B.S.

About how Trump has restored America's standing among the world's leaders. They brag about the economy he supposedly created. They marvel at how he is "keeping us safe" from those evil, disease-ridden, criminals crossing our border. You know, the same old B.S.

And how Obama went on an "apology tour", gave away "free stuff" to lazy people, etc. etc.

[Progressive Jones]

12. Exactly. They never have an answer. nt

[Ohiogal]

3. I actually have not had anyone say that to my face

But I have seen it written on comment boards in local newspapers. (directed at liberals in general, not me specifically)

[Arkansas Granny]

4. Not to me directly, but I've heard it said. You can't even rebut a statement like that because

the person who asks such a question is such a diehard Trumper that they will never accept facts.

[GoCubsGo]

5. Many times.

I just laugh, shake my head, and walk away. I'm not trained in cult deprogramming, so I'll put my time to use in more constructive activities, rather than trying fix what can't be fixed.

[lark]

6. Yes and I laughed.

I said "Obama did nothing bad in most people's eyes except being black, do you want to hear the totally awful un-American things drumpf is doing that are never covered on Fox? The person laughed and walked away mumbling something about sour grapes. That's really all they have, I've heard that phrase so often from former classmates.

[unblock]

7. Yup

Being a bigot must really suck

[irisblue]

8. They hung & burned images of Mr Obama, we have Orange floats

Their tons of self pity and sense of being victimized is reflected on that sentence. So many cannot imagine that our ethos and praxis are not much like theirs.


So, if you feel safe to do so, keep asking , "can you tell me exactly what you mean?" Point put the hanging racist photos versus a baby balloon

[Hoyt]

9. Lots of times. Yet, Obama did nothing to hurt them directly. Just the opposite, but their racism

keeps them from seeing it.

I live in an area that went just about 80% for trump. So, I hear that kind of BS often.

[Ohiogal]

19. I think it burned their butts

To see women and minorities given civil rights ....

[Freddie]

11. Yes

I’ve given up arguing about it. A friend (who is actually a Dem and hates trump) is totally convinced that Obamacare ruined her health insurance. She’s on her husbands employer plan and they switched to a high-deductible plan and blamed Obamacare. I told her they could have done a high-deductible plan long before the ACA passed but knew it would be unpopular, so they took the opportunity to do so when they had a scapegoat. And naturally the Republican owners of the company chose to make the Dems look bad while doing so.

[Ohiogal]

16. I hear people blame Obamacare for lousy health insurance all the time, too

And the last time I was at my doctor's, the nurse there was trying to tell me that my ACA bronze plan is considered Medicaid. I replied that it is not but she was adamant.

[Freddie]

22. It's sad when health care professionals don't know the facts

Or those “lazy bums” getting a “free ride” when people have Medicaid. My daughter’s a nurse and hears that crap from other nurses.
I know a guy who’s self-employed and has an Obamacare plan. Complained at great length about how it costs him more than his old junk plan. Then he had heart-bypass surgery which the plan covered. Still complains about the price of the insurance. Telling him he’s got one major pre-existing condition falls on deaf ears.

[Ohiogal]

24. If I had a nickel for every time I've heard

that line about "lazy bums getting a free ride on Medicaid" ...........

And just yesterday, there was a story on our local TV website about how our local for-profit prison is no longer going to warehouse illegal immigrants waiting for deportation. Someone wrote after the article, "It would be a lot cheaper to just shoot them all." Where this deranged mind set comes from, I have no clue. My right wing father would have never said anything like that.

[marble falls]

13. No and NO.

[Cirque du So-What]

14. Yes, I have

I told them that I was sorry that all their guns got grabbed and that we had to live under sharia law back then.

[Ohiogal]

20. Good answer!

[texasfiddler]

15. I have stopped communicating with right wingers

That is a typical statement from them. I remember hearing “ Can’t wait to get rid of the n$@*#* in the White House” from several right wingers. They are not worthy of my time and can’t be reasoned with. It is mainly a perceived loss of white standing in society. They blame all of their problems on others (Blacks, Jews, Mexicans, Liberals, educated elitists, etc.). Very similar to Nazis.

[redstatebluegirl]

17. Yes it is a pretty common thing where I live.

[Goodheart]

18. My response:

"So I should be angry because a white man is in the White House?"

[TheFarseer]

21. Yes!

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Then they go on to tell me how divisive he was and how he’s the real racist. What planet are these people living on? Oh yeah, the economy sucked under Obama and he’s the one that put the kids in cages and he’s the one that was working with Russia. It’s like Pee Wee Herman’s “I know you are, but what am I?”. Anything you don’t like about Trump, Obama started it or did it too. I know a few people insist Romney won the election and Obama stole Ohio. I don’t remember the basis for this claim, likely because it was nonsense.

[Ohiogal]

23. When they say things like

"He was the most divisive president ever!" That's when they lose me.

You're right, they're not only residing on a different planet, it's a different universe!

[VOX]

25. One of the biggest false equivalencies EVER.

And the right wing loves false equivalencies.

Obama was perceived by them as an enemy because of his color, his background, his education, his popularity, and his very name. And the mob was egged on by the usual talking heads.

In contrast, Trump is in FACT a genuine existential threat to American law, democratic foundations, security and influence. He and his cult followers are pushing hard to bring a dystopian future into the present; to several degrees, they’ve been successful already in moving the country toward that “goal.”

THE LONGER TRUMP IS IN POWER, THE WORSE HE WILL ACT, THE MORE LINES HE WILL CROSS UNHINDERED. Our institutions cannot survive another Republican term. GOTV, especially in the swing states. Your very existence as a free American citizen is at stake.

[Ohiogal]

27. But when you call them on that

They will tell you that Liberals always have to play the "race card"!

[VOX]

31. Their whole deck is racist cards!

Rush, Hannity, et al have given even the most simple-minded Trumpist the stock comeback lines:
-“Race card!”
-“Socialism!”
-“Overturn a legitimate [*gag*] election!”
-“Keep your government hands off of my
healthcare!”
-“The economy is great! Jobs for ‘blacks,’ too!”
-“We’re not a democracy, we’re a republic!” (A vintage idiotic chestnut that seems to have new life of late on the internet.)

[dewsgirl]

26. Yes..at that point, I write them off in my mind, there's no changing

someone with that mentality.

[brewens]

28. "We suffered for eight years under Obama". Seething with hatred for eight years because

a black man was elected president is stressful I guess. That was my reply last time I saw that one on FB.

[Ohiogal]

30. Yeah, they "suffered".

They suffered seeing women and minorities being given civil rights. They suffered not being able to cram their religion down everyone's throat. They suffered from being able to afford health insurance, many for the first time in their lives....

[AmericanGraffiti]

29. Yes, unfortunately I have

And then they attack Obama and repeat all the false talking points they have been fed about him.

[AllaN01Bear]

32. no.

[kentuck]

33. What did Obama do that was so abhorrent to them?

They declared war on him from day one. They vowed to make him a one-term president.

[monmouth4]

34. He was brilliant and black..n/t

[uponit7771]

38. Obama ate babies, that's what Fauk News told em and they believed it

[Iggo]

35. Not yet.

The only ones I know are at work, though.

And they know better than to say something like that to me.

[struggle4progress]

36. "I was shocked when he wore a tan suit!"

[tirebiter]

37. Nope to the op.

My landlord was a trump voter. A hippy turned contractor. He hates rules. Made the vote to make his point but pays almost no attention to politics beyond that. OTOH, he gave me a cheap place to rent when my house burned down.

[ancianita]

39. Nope. Every Trump voter I know KNOWS

a) the difference between the two presidents, and

b) they'd thereby reveal their racism.

And I do live in Florida, and all my neighbors except one are Trump voters.

They dare not speak to me.

[GReedDiamond]

40. Yes, and I told him he is a racist and full of shit...

...I've known this guy for over 40 years.

[ornotna]

41. I have.

I couldn't help myself.