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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI want political ads saying Trump is a child molester, rapes women, kidnaps children.
I want the Democrats to become brutal. What the fuck are they waiting for? You don't even have to lie to make those ads. If the Democrats keep on fighting like they are, they deserve to lose to Trump.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,613 posts)Legend has it that during one of Lyndon Johnsons congressional campaigns he decided to spread a rumor that his opponent was a pig-fucker. LBJs campaign manager said, Lyndon, you know he doesnt do that! Johnson replied, I know. I just want to make him deny it.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)There is video of Trump with Epstein. There is video of women saying Trump raped me. There is video of children being kidnapped from their mothers on the border.
The Democrats are making a big mistake being civilized on their attacks on Trump.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)We can go low without lies.
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)brokephibroke
(1,883 posts)They adore trump because he calls libs childish names...
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,613 posts)which is maybe why Lyndon Johnson's tactic - spread rumors that Trump fucks pigs - might be more effective than the truth.
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)but independents and disaffected Repubicans just might not want a predatory monster in the White House much longer.
uponit7771
(90,304 posts)... people Trump is a threat truthfully should net some gaines.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)We will be portrayed as mean. And liars. Too much pearl clutching would ensue.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(4,457 posts)But only when Republicans do it.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)Trump is mentally ill. Trump is really stupid. Trump is a terrible business man. Trump is in very bad health. Trump and the Republicans will make up vicious ads that are not true. The Democrats must do the same thing and they don't have to lie.
I say again, What the fuck are they waiting for.
OnDoutside
(19,948 posts)Duppers
(28,117 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Thanks Shockey, I am trying to come up with some 1 minute spots for youtube and other social media. At least 4 videos here.
We need to be like Betty Bowers and Randy Rainbow as well.
global1
(25,225 posts)We lost our best opportunity to remove Trump. We should have held him accountable for his sexual related crimes a long time ago back when it was front page news - even before he was elected.
His pussy grabbing. His walking in to dressing rooms because he could. His sexual assaults on women. His accused rapes.
The climate was right to hold him accountable for all these crimes. We had the 'me too' movement working for us. We had Cosby. We had Roger Ailes. We had Hollywood stars and moguls going down. Now we even have Weinstein. Epstein. Prince Andrew. etc, etc, etc.
We held their feet to the fire and they were banished from their pedestals
If we would have kept the pressure on Trump - he too could have been banished. His Repug protectors would not go there to protect him. It would have been political suicide for them to protect him with respect to his sexual crimes.
If we would have pushed this sexual issue they couldnt have shielded Trump. Too volatile of an issue and women would have crucified any Repug if they tried to protect Trump in those cases.
Just think about how those other guys I mentioned above went down. I heard that Joni Ernst is saying that Trump is a prince compared to Clinton. At least Clintons dalliance was with someone that was consenting. Really Joni? - a prince compared to Clinton?
The me too movement was and is too powerful and the issue is too sensitive and close to the hearts and minds of women.
Instead, up til now, we gave Trump a pass. We enabled him. We let these opportunities slip through our grasp. Comics made jokes about him. During that period where Trump was under the gun we and the MSM supported Trump more than the women accusers.
We might have lost an opportunity back then to remove him - but its not too late to use this against him now. I say - go for it as the OP suggests.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,613 posts)Use social media. Do what they do. Spread rumors on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram (Reddit, 4Chan, wherever) that Trump fucks pigs and sheep or (more believable, since he doesn't like animals) that he's running a kiddie porn ring out of Trump Tower. That's where you get to them if you're going to fight dirty.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Not giving them reason to say "fake news." I try for honest reporting, but of course my slant might be seen as a smear.
Someone on my Twitter account suggested those things you aim a phone at with a secret anti-trump messages. They could easily be placed and posted everywhere. Older MAGAs might not notice, but millenials would.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,613 posts)I say, spread it around social media that he's paid for a dozen abortions (which is quite possible), or that he bought teenaged girls from Epstein. Make him deny it.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Will look these over for soundbites to clip. Thanks for posting.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212949192
OnDoutside
(19,948 posts)Wilson is closer to the mark in his new book, humiliate him. Relentlessly. Make him look like the joke that he is, in ad after ad. Never Trumpers are already raising money and doing their own ads, not waiting around for Democrats to get their ass in gear. And to be fair, Bloomberg is already doing that too.
Spot on.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Some folks dont get that.
drmeow
(5,012 posts)came from sources like the Lincoln Project and Payback Project.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)but these should be short 1 minute clips, with soundbites or quotes. Voiceovers for copyright protection. FAIR USE to prevent DMCA. I am trying to come up with ideas. Thanks. Bookmarking for future ref.
rockfordfile
(8,699 posts)Nikki28
(557 posts)You can start with his father getting arrested at a klan rally. Put his aquital side by side with OJ Simpson.Move onto all the rapes, his first wife rape, the bankruptcies,the 20 women he raped, including the latest author,move into the cover up impeachment and list all the co conspirators in the senate,the shootings,the killings,the klansman rise since he came into office.His mobster mentality.There are so much that would have disqualified any other candidate.His disrespect of war heroes and so on.You can add more fake ones because his side sure as hell does.I don't see what could be worst than what he has already gotten away with.I think Putin has people in the US as well as Barr working under Putin as well in the US.All of the Rep in Senate and house works for Putin. I would so add every last one.
tavernier
(12,370 posts)virgogal
(10,178 posts)(Cages never used by either one---chain link fences.)
ooky
(8,908 posts)I'm not sure how many of those will be motivated to show up and vote, wait in a line, take time out of their daily life, etc. when they hear one of these molester ads.
I think its the nature of people to feel personally threatened in some way to get them to act. There is a lot about the behavior of this president to exploit in that way.
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)By all means, crafty people should be making clips of tRUMP in the place of Drago decked out in the same Soviet wear fighting Rocky Balboa... Be sure to include tRUMP in place of Drago saying that he must break Rocky.
Throw in a Wendy's commercial with an unflattering Ivanka in the Soviet fashion show.
Mock the hell out of them... They will lose many votes and all Americans will ridicule them.