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Some impeachment witness plan to speak out. (Original Post) triron Feb 2020 OP
THE QUESTION, then, is this. Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #1
Oh, we knew. (n/t) Iggo Feb 2020 #3
These people are a lot braver than most. We need to have their backs. Frustratedlady Feb 2020 #2
could someone who can get behind the NYT paywall.. Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #4
I have a subscription. Control-Z Feb 2020 #6
doesn't say... must have been before Friday handmade34 Feb 2020 #7
I didn't see it teach1st Feb 2020 #8
The following (from the NYT article) Control-Z Feb 2020 #9
That's funny. Sondland is the one getting fired I have no sympathy for. Those republican brewens Feb 2020 #5

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
1. THE QUESTION, then, is this.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 06:58 PM
Feb 2020

WHEN did the senators know he was going to do this?


BEFORE they acquitted him??

Or after?

If it was BEFORE, then their capitulation is more insidious than we knew.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
2. These people are a lot braver than most. We need to have their backs.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 07:06 PM
Feb 2020

The Repukes need to learn who they are dealing with. They are so fearful of Trump, they can't see what is right and wrong.

They think they can threaten to further terrify these career employees, but forget what true loyalty is. It's past time for them to wake up and realize that there is more to patriotism than wearing a pin. Remember when they ganged up on Obama because he wasn't wearing a pin, thus wasn't patriotic? If Bill Taylor and Marie Yovanovitch step up to the plate, maybe others will do the same. Sondland wouldn't hold back. This will be interesting.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
4. could someone who can get behind the NYT paywall..
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 07:14 PM
Feb 2020

...tell us if it says WHEN senators asked him not to do it?

handmade34

(22,758 posts)
7. doesn't say... must have been before Friday
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 07:27 PM
Feb 2020

...The senators told White House officials that Mr. Sondland should be allowed to depart on his own terms, which would have reduced any political backlash.
But Mr. Trump evidently was not interested in a quiet departure, choosing instead to make a point by forcing Mr. Sondland out before the ambassador was ready to go. When State Department officials called Mr. Sondland on Friday to tell him that he had to resign that day, he resisted, saying that he did not want to be included in what seemed like a larger purge of impeachment witnesses, according to the people informed about the matter.

Mr. Sondland conveyed to the State Department officials that if they wanted him gone that day, they would have to fire him. And so the president did, ordering the ambassador recalled from his post effective immediately. Mr. Sondland’s dismissal was announced just hours after another impeachment witness, Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, and his twin brother, Lt. Col. Yevgeny Vindman, were marched out of the White House by security officers and told their services were no longer needed.

...Among the Republicans who warned the White House was Senator Susan Collins of Maine, who after voting to acquit Mr. Trump said she thought he had learned a lesson. Others included Senators Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Martha McSally of Arizona and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. The White House did not respond to requests for comment on Saturday but a senior administration official confirmed the senators’ outreach on behalf of Mr. Sondland, a donor to Mr. Tillis and other Republicans.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
9. The following (from the NYT article)
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 07:49 PM
Feb 2020

is the only reference I could find as to when it may have occured (in bold):

The senators were concerned that it would look bad for Mr. Trump to dismiss Mr. Sondland and argued that it was unnecessary, since the ambassador was already talking with senior officials about leaving after the Senate trial, the people said. The senators told White House officials that Mr. Sondland should be allowed to depart on his own terms, which would have reduced any political backlash.

brewens

(13,622 posts)
5. That's funny. Sondland is the one getting fired I have no sympathy for. Those republican
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 07:15 PM
Feb 2020

senators must have been worried about the example it would set. The guy played ball and bought that ambassador gig fair and square. It's not his fault he got sucked into the whole thing. What was he supposed to do? Defy the subpoena and trust Trump and Barr to keep him out of jail? I think he told the truth but tried to be as cute as possible about some of his answers.

He was even getting his residence in Brussels upgraded to a palace. Now he's out and probably wants his million bucks back. That's what they were worried about. Guys like him might not be willing to bribe them after something like this.

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