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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,985 posts)
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 08:41 PM Feb 2020

Giuliani says John Bolton is 'either a liar or a backstabber' following book revelations

President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani blasted former National Security Adviser John Bolton for claiming in his new book that the president tied aid to Ukraine to his request that the country announce investigations of the Bidens.

In an interview on Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures,” Giuliani – who Bolton claims was in the room when Trump made the request – said Bolton was “either a either a liar or a back-stabber.”

“He went around my back to the secretary of state and complained,” Giuliani said. “I don’t know what John’s up to. He’s either a liar or a backstabber.”

The claim in Bolton’s upcoming book, which was first reported by the New York Times, led to renewed calls during Trump’s impeachment trial that he – along with acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and other high ranking administration officials – should be called as witnesses. The Republican-controlled Senate eventually voted against calling any witnesses in Trump’s trial and ultimately acquitted the president on the two articles brought against him.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/giuliani-says-john-bolton-is-either-a-liar-or-a-backstabber-following-book-revelations/ar-BBZOI7v?li=BBnbcA1

Went behind your back? What government position do you hold? You're Trump's personal attorney.

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Giuliani says John Bolton is 'either a liar or a backstabber' following book revelations (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 OP
Wow..."went around my back" Docreed2003 Feb 2020 #1
Man I wish so much these people would crawl back into the sewer they crawled out of (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #2
I believe Bolton is indeed a liar and a backstabber, but he is apparently not a traitor. Midnight Writer Feb 2020 #3
This seems to be... Newest Reality Feb 2020 #4
I'm not quite sure that's the either/or statement you want to make there, Rudy ck4829 Feb 2020 #5
What a beautiful unconscious confession. NT enough Feb 2020 #6

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
1. Wow..."went around my back"
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 08:42 PM
Feb 2020

Clearly the chain of command means something very very different in that White House

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
4. This seems to be...
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 08:59 PM
Feb 2020

This seems to be a part of the systematic disassembly of our system and a means of conditioning the public, as I have noted.

What I mean is, here we have Giuliani, who is actually acting as Trump's attorney, also behaving as if he is a government official and implying it regularly. That bypasses and formal or official assignment of him to any post or position that would normally be required for him to act in such a manner.

If you haven't seen this kind of subversion again and again, let me know. It is a repeating them. It is overstepping the boundaries of our government each time something like this happens and so, it appears to be about more than just the individual events. It is a direct affront and violation of of boundaries in a bold, public manner that then becomes a matter of mass influence in order to normalize it, regardless of its legal aspects.

That's how you mess with and mess up a system and it is proceeding in full force and so far, rather unhindered. Trumps acting belies the subtle, but coherent actions that are meant to corrode the system as much as possible and make it even more vulnerable to his all out attack on it. Trumpism is political hydrochloric acid that slowly eats away our democracy.

ck4829

(35,076 posts)
5. I'm not quite sure that's the either/or statement you want to make there, Rudy
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 09:07 PM
Feb 2020

Liar OR Backstabber


I mean: Unless you literally stab someone in the back, the law doesn't really care if someone metaphorically stabs someone else in the back.

He could be a liar or he could be exposing the various corrupt business dealings.

Which is it?

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