"He got 44.8% in 2018. He suffered the worst electoral defeat in the House ever"

[babylonsister]

https://politicalwire.com/2020/02/10/quote-of-the-day-2471/

Quote of the Day
February 10, 2020 at 8:46 am EST By Taegan Goddard

“He got 44.8% in 2018. He suffered the worst electoral defeat in the House ever… but yet, the media is going, ‘Oh, he’s so strong, he’s so powerful, he’s so this.’ No he’s not!”

— James Carville, in an interview on MSNBC, on President Trump.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

1. He's a squishy, smelly turd we will flush November third.

[iluvtennis]

14. I like your description - we will flush him in November. nt

[NurseJackie]

37. What's the difference between this bucket of shit and Trump?

... the bucket.

[Bob Loblaw]

38. Even if it takes 15 flushes

[TwilightZone]

2. 55/45 would be a monumental blowout at the presidential level.

Works for me.

[chia]

3. We need a unified, powerful blue wave to drown out that incessant media message.

Carville also said "We have one moral imperative, and that's to beat Donald Trump."

We have to not ignore but overwhelm the media drumbeat and we do this by being unified. "Stronger Together."

[calimary]

23. And unified consistent MESSAGING.

Press a new brand on the GOP. They’re CHEATERS.

The only way they can win is by CHEATING.

They CHEAT to win.

They can’t win unless they CHEAT.

The CHEATER Party.

And as always, REPEAT! REPEAT the damn MESSAGE, people! At least three times EACH time.

He CHEATS. They CHEAT. The GOP CHEATS. They’re the CHEATERS Party. (Oops, that was actually FOUR times repeating. Even BETTER!) They only win because they CHEAT! (Oops! FIVE times repeating! Even better STILL!) I could go on... so I’m GONNA!

[chia]

29. Yes. And timely messaging too, I've seen so many missed chances

[rufus dog]

32. They cheat and the media is complicit

Remember all the times Obama was asked what he was doing to work with Republicans and unite the Country after the Teabaggers were given unlimited time? Not a friggen peep out of them now that tRump is in the White House.

Where are the dissatisfied Repubs? My county, The OC, turned blue in 2018. Again not a peep out of the media as to what the Republicans are doing to recapture the lost base. Three million plus in the County. But I sure have seen concerns about WV with under 2 million voters.

[Trueblue Texan]

4. Carville speaks for me on this one.

[rainin]

5. I hate that all the candidates say we NEED TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP

instead of saying we need to overcome voter suppression and dirty tricks. What if they said that instead? We're turning tRump into some mythical character with superhuman powers

[bucolic_frolic]

7. We are struggling for a term for all these things

NY Gov Cuomo said this week we need a better term than "infrastructure". Speaker Pelosi suggested "Growth". Short and simple.

We need the same brief term for voter suppression, dirty tricks, Russian interference and mind control. Something the public understands, that stays in their minds and makes them aware. So there's your assignment. Bloomberg would likely put an ad agency on the problem.

I'm coming up with Election Sabotage. Or Vote Sabotage.

Suggestions from all appreciated. We need something that cuts the confusion and focuses the minds like never before.

[MadLinguist]

13. Election Sabotage! that is the perfect term

And it's better than Vote Sabotage because it is more systemic than messing with votes, because there are intrusions at every level that citizens, precincts, states, the nation, political parties, and the media interact with the electoral process. Which means that laws and law enforcement has to be shored up on every front. If offenses parallel to these rat-fucking, gerrymandering, manipulating activities were carried out across the financial sector, presumably people would be going to jail, amiright?

I am going to start using the term "Election Sabotage" all over the place. Until there are people in governmental positions who are actually motivated to carry out elections in a democratic fashion, the most important thing us lil' people can do is to get the messaging right.

What always turns my head inside out about this problem is that the incentive to fix the electoral machine seems to disappear once a politician is elected. Maybe not thru corruption or subscription to dirty trick ways, but because there are so many fires to put out when a decent person takes office. The only politician I think would make Election Sabotage priority number one upon being elected is Stacy Abrams.

[bucolic_frolic]

15. Yes, totally correct

Powerful people benefit from Election Sabotage so nothing is done about it.

Use the term, social media everywhere. Once the MSM picks up the term it will run with it. Everyone knows Democrats are trying to count every vote. But sabotage? It point the finger at the GOP and convicts them in the same term, dragging in all their methods.

Let's do it!!

And you might take a moment to find Stacy Abrams organization and convey the idea. We do need a simpler term for the scoundrel's methods we face every day.

[calimary]

24. CHEATING. Repeat as necessary. Repeat BECAUSE it's necessary!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. Wow you hit the nail on the head!! Especially that

Bloomberg would put an ad agency on it.

I have wondered for a long time why we have no media strategy. No generic ads along the way to highlight his malfeasance. I'd like to see a retreat with Mad Ave admen, psychiatrists, strategists, pollsters, media researchers, and big Hollywood $$. Come up with the best plan to defeat this monster.

At the very least, run some ads, raise awareness that GOP hasn't done a thing to stop Russian and Facebook interference. Dig up dirt from an untapped treasure trove - all the regs he has overturned. Know he's overturned Obama's reg to stop coal companies from dumping sludge into water. Sludge that contains proven cancer causing materials.

As for interference tho, have to be careful to not scare people into thinking their vote won't count, huh.

[bucolic_frolic]

20. Maybe that's why we don't pursue these things

or save them for the 6 week push in October. Motivational tools.

And we use and recycle the same pollsters and PR people. They lose one year, 4 or 6 years later they're back in another similar capacity. They don't need a learning curve that way, but are they improving? Who will tell them? And if we hire someone UNtested, are they better or worse? No one knows. I guess they're like professionals of all kinds. You get "standard care". No litigation that way, and everyone gets paid.

Salute!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. Yes! Surely there is someone savvy enough to realize

that standard traditional ways can be thrown out the window with trump. You need like the entire Brookings Institute think tank on this. Why I think we need younger leadership. Or, leadership, whatever age, that can think outside the box

[rainin]

21. I vote for the term Election Sabotage. Perfect!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. Yes turnout & combatting dirty tricks like voter suppression are key in a highly polarized electorat

[pandr32]

18. + 1000000000

[SuprstitionAintthWay]

39. I word November and December 2016 as he was electoralcolleged.

The American voter selected Hillary by a margin of 2.9 million.

A month later Trump was "elected" by 304 Republican Party loyslists hand-picked by its state level parties for their hyperpartisanship.

I don't dignify that farce with a word that wrongly implies he's the American people's choice.

[Wounded Bear]

6. M$M is definitely overplaying the "electability" angle...

[SWBTATTReg]

27. and M$M is not the only ones doing it either. I see it here on DU a lot too. ...

[RhodeIslandOne]

8. Unfortunately the electoral college is a disaster

[Different Drummer]

19. Totally agree.

[IronLionZion]

9. He's a weak, vindictive, bully who lies about everything

Come on Dems. We can beat this guy.

[calimary]

25. He's a CHEATER.

[Silent3]

10. I think a lot of people feel a need to (over-?) compensate...

...for the surprise that Trump ever won election in the first place. It seems so bizarre and incredible that few of us (myself included) know how to re-evaluate our sense of what seems likely and what doesn't in an election.

I don't even know if the people like Michael Moore who seemed certain that Trump would win were being especially smart, or if cynicism just randomly paid off.

Regardless of whether I understand how voters will vote, however, I do think I'm right to worry that Trump is "strong" in the sense that he's got more power now to illegally tilt the election in his favor.

[RestoreAmerica2020]

12. Thanks for posting that..just viewed Bill Maher on CNN where he pretty much said same. WTF?

..with friends like that who needs enemies! Fuck Maher..and I'm waiting for Michael Moore to start lathering praise on the predator-in-chief too--in his most recent podcast he at least sounded the alarm--not holding my breath though [imo Moore helped trump defeat clinton in 2016.]

What irks me is that they want it both ways--- he's a monster BUT then he's the best monster ever--they contradict themselves. Wait! I'm wrong they give him the affirmative first [which is what people remember] then they state the negative. What was Bill Maher 's lede--trump had his best week ever. I was done with Mahr when he gave kkknazi bannon a platfrom to spew his hate propaganda--I'm done listening, they either help us or get out of the fucking way!

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/02/09/bill-maher-fareed-zakaria-trump-best-week-sot-gps-vpx.cnn

[FakeNoose]

16. I agree with you, Bill Maher is insidious

He tries to sound like he's "buddies" with the Dems, once in a while. But really he's a libertarian of the worst kind. And to me he's not very funny either. His audiences must be pre-selected to make sure they only get people who will laugh at his jokes.

[Marthe48]

22. thug relies on henchmen

to protect him. If you got him alone on 5th Ave., it'd be easy to kick his ass.

Why cede power to this loser? The only things that makes sense to me are: traitor has stuff on the cowards who prop him up. Or those who prop him up find him to be a useful idiot.

[GaYellowDawg]

26. I'm not sure I mind alarm bells about how "strong" Trump is.

We were all pretty certain of a blowout in 2016, and I think complacency might have kept a lot of voters home. If Democratic voters are on edge, thinking that every vote will absolutely count, we'll get a lot better effort and turnout. So maybe not such a bad thing... so long as the exaggeration isn't so extreme that people just give up.

[MFGsunny]

28. Carville nailed it. MF45 is a LOSER who has to CHEAT to not be a loser.

RINSE
REPEAT

RINSE
REPEAT

[moondust]

30. Carville was on Morning Joe today.

I was half asleep but the impression I got was that he wants a candidate who pulls no punches and basically takes a battering ram to the thug. I don't know who that candidate is or if that's even the right approach. Is a "stronger strongman" the answer? Would anything less make somebody look "weak"? I prefer brains over brawn but don't know how many voters feel that way.

[EleanorR]

31. He also reminded people that trump went into Kentucky and Louisiana and republicans lost!

Kentucky and Louisiana people.

Republicans are working very hard to make Democrats feel powerless so we throw up our hands and give up. Don't let it happen. There are more of us than there are of them, and if we stick together we can vote this cretin out of office.

[Calista241]

33. Obama was re-elected in 2012 after the Dems got crushed in 2010.

To think this election is a foregone conclusion is DANGEROUS! We also took a punch in the face in 2014.

[inwiththenew]

35. Exactly

Republicans picked up 6 Senate seats and 63 House seats in 2010 as well as 6 Governors and still lost in 2012.

[RandySF]

42. Because people wanted to show up for Obama, not necessarily anyone else.

[ooky]

36. Many thanks to Carville for calling out the media's bs.

It's freakin' nonsense. Thank you James.

[Under The Radar]

40. AND HE HAS A COMB-OVER!

[RandySF]

41. Carville doesn't understand #Cult45

They'll turn out for Orange Julius even if they didn't show up for the rest of the party.