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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:51 PM Feb 2020

George Conway: Trump is right. We might have to impeach him again.

If this were a criminal investigation, and Alexander Vindman and Sondland had given their testimony to a grand jury, this Friday Night Massacre could have been a crime. At the very least, it ought to be impeachable: If Richard M. Nixon was to be impeached for authorizing hush money for witnesses, and Trump himself was actually impeached for directing defiance of House subpoenas, then there should be no doubt that punishing witnesses for complying with subpoenas and giving truthful testimony about presidential misconduct should make for a high crime or misdemeanor as well.
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And he’ll only get worse. Narcissistic leaders such as Trump always do. As we’ve now seen, his rage leads to retribution and misconduct, which beget more criticism, and more investigation, and even more rage, retribution and misconduct. Over and over again.

So America beware: The state is Trump, and he’s very, very angry. We might, indeed, have to do it again.

[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/10/trump-is-right-we-might-have-impeach-him-again/|]
Emphasis mine

And again and again and again. As many times as it takes. He is an outrage.
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George Conway: Trump is right. We might have to impeach him again. (Original Post) Soph0571 Feb 2020 OP
Agreed . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #1
I'm okay with that. fleur-de-lisa Feb 2020 #2
Really? Rider3 Feb 2020 #3
He has been taking action as a co-founder of Republicans for the Rule of Law group andym Feb 2020 #13
yes Skittles Feb 2020 #18
LOL! 2naSalit Feb 2020 #30
Love is a strange thing jimfields33 Feb 2020 #38
Sure if we knew we were going to get some ROI...did the impeachment change anyone's mind Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #4
Maybe. I think Mitt might have helped a bit at the end there too. He's a moderate's moderate. TeamPooka Feb 2020 #26
I'm ALL for it! bluestarone Feb 2020 #5
Serial criminals deserve all the impeachments they get. C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #6
Do it and do it now! ffr Feb 2020 #7
Double jeopardy does not apply. Marcuse Feb 2020 #8
And again and again. CrispyQ Feb 2020 #9
He probably would. Laelth Feb 2020 #39
Let's install a revovling door in the House Chanbers! abqtommy Feb 2020 #10
Four. CloudWatcher Feb 2020 #11
Shelf registration Impeachment-of-the-Month Club bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #12
I have my doubts about impeaching him again Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2020 #14
He won't go voluntarily bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #15
I couldn't ever see him going voluntarily either Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2020 #16
I want him impeached again. EndlessWire Feb 2020 #19
I don't disagree and would gladly see the House throw more AOIs against him Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2020 #22
"Unless he does something really massively egregious". Ya! let's wait until he launches a Nuclear... usaf-vet Feb 2020 #20
We can't just impeach him "just because" we think he *might* do something Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2020 #23
Remember when the nation was talking about invading Iraq. Bush threaten waiting for a mushroom cloud usaf-vet Feb 2020 #25
Right? 2naSalit Feb 2020 #32
I'd say that if he starred in a video, sitting at the resolute desk in darkness mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #31
I'm not so sure... dchill Feb 2020 #35
I'd be PRETTY sure that extreme of behavior would turn a lot of his followers against him ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #36
Either way, I'm pretty sure I don't want to see... dchill Feb 2020 #37
I guess the solution is to quit mentioning all the bad shit he does groundloop Feb 2020 #17
I had a friend for a while matt819 Feb 2020 #21
Do it every day The Wizard Feb 2020 #24
Make him the most impeached President in the history of the world! lunatica Feb 2020 #27
Impeach and make the Senate sit and listen to his crimes. They don't do anything anyway dalton99a Feb 2020 #28
+1 2naSalit Feb 2020 #33
it's a target-rich environment -- let's do Impeachment of the Month Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #29
Agree. moondust Feb 2020 #34

Rider3

(919 posts)
3. Really?
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:02 PM
Feb 2020

And, he's married to Kellyanne Conway? It's hard to believe he is so mortified while Kellyanne is so jovial. Unless and until Conway takes action, he can write in opposition all he wants. No one cares at this point. The crook got off and probably will again. Trump sold his soul and the country.

andym

(5,442 posts)
13. He has been taking action as a co-founder of Republicans for the Rule of Law group
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:49 PM
Feb 2020

that is running anti-Trump ads nationally. He may be a conservative ideologue, but unlike most who just play follow the leader, it appears he despises Trump's perversion of the Republican Party.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
4. Sure if we knew we were going to get some ROI...did the impeachment change anyone's mind
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:04 PM
Feb 2020

anyone who is on the fence that is.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
7. Do it and do it now!
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:25 PM
Feb 2020

The Kremlin's GOP is at a full-on war with the United States, like this is the last generation that will ever be alive and they're the keepers of all things white.

WTF is wrong with rePuticans???

CloudWatcher

(1,842 posts)
11. Four.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:45 PM
Feb 2020

I think we should impeach him three more times before the election. I think that's about the right pace.

bucolic_frolic

(43,006 posts)
12. Shelf registration Impeachment-of-the-Month Club
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:47 PM
Feb 2020

Charges quickly and readily identifiable. Saves a bundle on overhead, and saves time. Streamlined, notary-only filing, prepackaged removal.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,387 posts)
14. I have my doubts about impeaching him again
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:56 PM
Feb 2020

unless he does something really massively egregious, although I'm very concerned about the Barr/DOJ/Guiliani revelation that came out over the weekend. I just doubt that the House, unless they feel strongly about something, are going have the political will to try again, especially with a Republican-controlled Senate that will- in all likelihood- vote down another round of AOIs. While I think that we should have been filing AOIs against him from day 1 for a multitude of things, most impeachment efforts seem to be a one-shot deal and, with an upcoming election in a matter of months- it seems rather unlikely that the House will advance something unless Trump does something so awful that even the Republicans can't ignore/dismiss/vote it down, at which point they'd likely just tell Trump to leave on his own accord, something that he didn't have the decency to afford Vindman. But I can't even imagine how bad it would have to be for the Republicans to do that.

bucolic_frolic

(43,006 posts)
15. He won't go voluntarily
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:59 PM
Feb 2020

That much is a given at this point. I think we're basically waiting for infirmities.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,387 posts)
16. I couldn't ever see him going voluntarily either
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:03 PM
Feb 2020

But, short of the upcoming election, the only way Trump is leaving is if a massive number of Republicans in the House and Senate turn against him, which has such an extremely low probability of actually happening that I'm not even sure it's worth mentioning.

EndlessWire

(6,445 posts)
19. I want him impeached again.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:21 PM
Feb 2020

I'm guessing Trump told Barr to get ready for arrests, and Barr told Graham. And Graham, all giddy with excitement, told the media. My fear is, he will charge everyone with Treason under the Patriot act.

We can't sit here because we don't want to go through it again. Like it or not, a second impeachment with more charges and evidence might sway some Repubs. At the very least, it will keep Trump busy while we get business done.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,387 posts)
22. I don't disagree and would gladly see the House throw more AOIs against him
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:35 PM
Feb 2020

Realistically, it probably won't happen again unless he wins re-election and continues on his present destructive course. At this point, it's important to keep the investigations going on him and his minions and see if anything particularly nasty bubbles to the surface as potentially impeachable, but, with as cautious as Pelosi and other top Dems were about even doing one Impeachment, I can't see them rushing to do another one that would be more or less doomed to failure. Plus, another trial could put one of the nominees out of commission at an even worse time- i.e. trying to win the GE.

usaf-vet

(6,161 posts)
20. "Unless he does something really massively egregious". Ya! let's wait until he launches a Nuclear...
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:33 PM
Feb 2020

.... weapon! My God, there is no telling how far this maniac would go. I'm not sure the repugs would see that as impeachable as long as the money keeps flowing to their coffers and he continues to stack the federal benches. What's a loose nuc or two that not to bigly.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,387 posts)
23. We can't just impeach him "just because" we think he *might* do something
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:38 PM
Feb 2020

If somebody comes out and says he's actually planning to do something like that, then, maybe we'd have that cause to take some action.

usaf-vet

(6,161 posts)
25. Remember when the nation was talking about invading Iraq. Bush threaten waiting for a mushroom cloud
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:54 AM
Feb 2020

Tuesday, October 8, 2002

Bush: Don't wait for the mushroom cloud.

https://edition.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/07/bush.transcript/

Preemptive action started a war that blew up the Middle East in which we are still fighting.

2naSalit

(86,293 posts)
32. Right?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:33 AM
Feb 2020

Just tonight he was chanting the LHU thing for Speaker of the House!!! WTF?!

And Looselips Lindsey was letting slip that some of the House member will be going to jail? On teevee?


He needs to be impeached again because he at least is under a little constraint... maybe not a second time because they WANT a civil war and have expressed as much in the past.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
31. I'd say that if he starred in a video, sitting at the resolute desk in darkness
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:28 AM
Feb 2020

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except for candles burning at the points of a pentagram that surrounded the desk, wearing red makeup and devil horns, and proceeded to drill a hole into a screaming live infants skull, shoving a straw into the hole, sucking it's brains out, and laughing maniacally while dribbling blood from his mouth and emoting in a deep, satanic voice ... "My Names Donald Trump, and I Approve this Message!', then threw the corpse against the wall, smiled broadly and gave the thumbs up ...

Then MOST of the magats would decide they don't much care for him anymore ... if the baby was white.

If the child were black or hispanic ... he'd only lose like 50% of his support. The other 50% remaining would argue that the infant was likely on some sort of ASSISTANCE, maybe even ILLEGAL!!!1!

Since you said you couldn't imagine what it would take ... I thought I'd help out ...

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
36. I'd be PRETTY sure that extreme of behavior would turn a lot of his followers against him ...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:37 AM
Feb 2020

But I mean, that's about the level of fcuked that would be required for any serious movement away from IQ45 by his knuckle-dragging cultists.

dchill

(38,422 posts)
37. Either way, I'm pretty sure I don't want to see...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:41 AM
Feb 2020

... whatever it would be that turns MAGATs away from Trump.

groundloop

(11,510 posts)
17. I guess the solution is to quit mentioning all the bad shit he does
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:15 PM
Feb 2020

That way he won't get offended, won't rage tweet, won't fire good honest Americans, and won't get any worse.




JUST KIDDING.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
21. I had a friend for a while
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:34 PM
Feb 2020

I had a friend a few years ago. She was a RWer. But she was a friend, and we didn't talk politics. And that was okay(ish). And we weren't partners, so we didn't have to confront each other with our political viewpoints daily.

How does Conway do it? Go home every night to his wife. I don't about all of you, but she disgusts me.

I think he's sincere in his opinions. But with this op-ed I almost think he's trolling. I mean, I agree with him, but is it the right thing to do politically? Pelosi has already made the point. And the Senate won't change, and Trump could kill people (plural) on TV and they would still love him. Probably even more. So what does impeaching repeatedly achieve? That said, I do think the House should have tons and tons of hearings. It should start with how his spawn are making money off of their association with him and the WH. Followed by other subpoenas, refusal of which should result in jail.

The Wizard

(12,527 posts)
24. Do it every day
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:44 PM
Feb 2020

Subpoena his progeny . Subpoena Malaria. Hire Mafia torpedos to scare the shit out of his closest allies. Send him airline tickets to Moscow.

moondust

(19,955 posts)
34. Agree.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:46 AM
Feb 2020

Very likely in the next year he'll commit more crimes or drop hints that he wants somebody else to commit them, as Michael Cohen explained.

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