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Quixote1818

(28,925 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:39 PM Feb 2020

Why Trump will lose in 2020


Rick Newman
Yahoo FinanceJanuary 2, 2020, 1:34 PM UTC
With unemployment at a 50-year low and the stock market near record highs, President Trump should be a shoo-in for reelection. He’s not.

In fact, Trump could very plausibly lose in November. Perhaps by a wide margin. Here are 4 reasons why:

The economy isn’t strong enough. There probably won’t be a recession by Election Day in November, but there will still be plenty of discontent. Income inequality has worsened under Trump, with the wealthy benefiting much more from a booming stock market than working- and middle-class Americans. Evidence continues to mount that Trump’s signature achievement, the 2017 tax-cut law, benefited businesses and the wealthy more than ordinary workers. Trump and other backers of the law insisted a boom in business spending would follow the tax cuts, but Moody’s Analytics found recently that just 20% of the corporate tax savings went to investment. The other 80% went to stock buybacks and dividend hikes that mainly benefit the shareholder class.

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Dan

(3,541 posts)
2. I would add to this
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:45 PM
Feb 2020

that fundamentally, a significant portion of the American people are really decent. The media tends to focus on the extremes, but basically we are a decent people. And most of us, regardless of political preference tend toward decency. Trump is not what we would like our sons to become, our daughters to marry, or a person we would invite into our homes. Trump represents an evil that at its heart most of his followers have to admit.

Would you want this man to babysit your teenagers daughters, and if not, why would you want him to be president?

wryter2000

(46,025 posts)
3. I was talking to a decent Republican yesterday
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:47 PM
Feb 2020

He's appalled that a conservative friend of his supporters Trump

stopdiggin

(11,285 posts)
8. thanks. I continue to subscribe to this as well.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:07 PM
Feb 2020

There is an "owning the libs" thing (lord knows too much of it) .. but fundamentally a lot of Americans recognize that the guy is just a sh**heel .. and he really isn't working to improve anyone's lives. Or particularly cares! The rich are working the system .. and everyone else is just working .. and trying to stay afloat.

Another big thing is the ridicule and disgust on the world stage. (I hope the nominee hammers this hard) There's no disguising it .. and that just plain hurts. Be you left, center or right .. you're not liking the U.S. being a laughingstock.

I think a lot of folks are ready for a change.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. I don't buy it-- how many Trumpons know about the fine points of...
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:49 PM
Feb 2020

corporate finance?

The other things brought up are largely guesswork.

unblock

(52,164 posts)
5. agreed. for the moment, the economy is in the "whatever the media tells them it is" range
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:54 PM
Feb 2020

a booming economy, people can't miss.
a recession, people can't miss.
high unemployment, people notice that, too.

anemic growth? highly concentrated wealth distribution? people are aware and concerned about such things if and only if the media covers such topics heavily.


just watch the media talk about the ongoing trump boom, with economic numbers worse than obama's economy, which they called anemic or stagnant.

FarPoint

(12,309 posts)
6. The media is not focusing on the low economy...
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:56 PM
Feb 2020

They , the MSM are being manipulative essentially.....I sense they have reporting instructions to be vague with such details...We savvy Democrats seek out facts and know what the professional economists are reporting.... It's a big bubble....

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
17. Neither party are exactly geniuses here
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:03 PM
Feb 2020

Frankly political junkies are the worst. The worst.

They know so very very much that just is not true.

And because their flawed knowledge is infused with the religious aspects of politics, their politics tends to imprint on their knowledge as to how things "should be" instead actually are.

The true experts in corporate finance tend to be rather apolitical or they keep their politics close to the chest.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
7. Trump will lose. Trump is full of "HATE"
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:00 PM
Feb 2020

...Some Americans have that hate, but

Most Americans are... NOT FULL OF HATE!!! Further, Trump's HATE is so obvious that most are repulsed by that hate. Trump will lose.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
9. HOW DARE YOU!
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:18 PM
Feb 2020

My HATE for the bestest sniffler's ACT/ACTIONS is FULL & unequaled!


W was special, but not near this bestest evil toadie level, perhaps a maybe on the don't take him hunting guy?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
10. I don't think it will be the economy that leads to his losing
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:32 PM
Feb 2020

it will be Trump himself, who proves he is unfit for office at least 1 time per day.

Trump is motivating Democrats to go to the polls in record numbers, like in 2018. They picked up 41 seats despite voter suppression and extreme gerrymandering. It easily could have been like 2016 or 1994 with 60+ seats without voter suppression and gerrymandering.

Quixote1818

(28,925 posts)
13. He got through by the skin of his teeth last time and his support is lower now
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:53 PM
Feb 2020

He makes a fool of himself every time he opens his mouth. I think he is done but I won't breath easy in the least until the fuckface gone and they were swearing in the Democratic President.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
11. I predict that Trump will not just lose in November, but..
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:35 PM
Feb 2020

..he will be the last reTHug President we'll have possibly forever. The changing demographics of our nation make that a fait accompli, and since they're unwilling to abandon white supremacy as a party, they will soon lack enough of a base to ever win the WH again in their present form.

Sadly, the reTHugs will still retain at least some seats in the House and Senate because there are still places in our nation that are and will remain majority white. However, as our nation continues to diversify, these areas will continue to shrink until sometime before the year 2100, when they should all mercifully be gone. And bang....no more Republican majority anywhere, period.

All of our Presidential candidates have promised to remove Dotard's wall, eliminate ICE, and reopen our southern border to all refugees and provide them with humane treatment. Hopefully this will accelerate our nation's diversification and spell and even quicker demise to the reTHUG party. The quicker we can make the rest of the American electorate resemble that of California's the better for all of humanity.

Quixote1818

(28,925 posts)
14. It's possible. Republicans are much older and dying off. Cruze almost lost in Texas of all places
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:55 PM
Feb 2020

Monoritie numbers are growing etc. Support for Republicans is leaving the suburbs. Everything seems to be working against them. Trump was hopefully the last gasp until they regroup and get rid of all the white trash that got Trump in.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
12. The health care issue is a big one
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 08:26 PM
Feb 2020

That had a large effect in 2018. Dotard continues to do nothing. If he succeeds in dismantling the ACA, that will have an immediate effect that will be obvious to the people losing it.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
16. Trump is also a lying, crook. People tell their kids not to lie, and Trump is liar.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:02 PM
Feb 2020

..Deep down inside, most people are repulsed by Mr. Trump for lots of reasons. He is also a bully. Trump will lose and lose big. Trump has proven to most voters over 3 years that he lies about everything, and is a bully too. Most people do not like ...bullies
..We all remember the bullies from grammar and high school and jobs. Few would deny that Trump is a bully, and he has proved that too.

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