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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:17 AM Feb 2020

Looks like the Madman is itching for a pardon of Stone and Manafort

Based on his tweets and retweets last night—decrying the supposed “injustice” of Stone’s conviction and potentially years long imprisonment, and then spreading doubt on the “black ledger” that showed Manafort receiving illegal payments from the corrupt and pro-Kremlin ex-leader of Ukraine.

Thing is, with almost everyone left in the White House being sniveling Yes-Men, he might very well do it, and sooner than later. Flynn too, and probably a pardon for Papadopolous, who quickly cut a deal but then claimed he didn’t.

Probably not Rick Gates, though, as he substantially complied with Mueller. Ditto for Michael Cohen.

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Botany

(70,490 posts)
1. And he will do it too.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:28 AM
Feb 2020

Trump without any proof will claimed they were framed on bullshit charges and pardon them,
work with Russia to rig the election, and all this will because the senate GOP gave him a free
pass instead of a real trial.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
2. even though they all ratted him out? each and every one?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:38 AM
Feb 2020

Many people are saying that. I'm not saying it, but many people are.

Just don't tell Donnie, ok?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
3. Stone reportedly didn't squeal. And Manafort fed Mueller bullshit.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:40 AM
Feb 2020

So he’ll be tempted to reward them for their “loyalty.”

Botany

(70,490 posts)
5. Both Manafort and Stone reportedly protected Trump and in the mob "they" know how to return a favor.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:07 AM
Feb 2020

I don't know how much Flynn gave up but with Bill Barr and a new Trump friendly US Attorney
I have read he will do no time for selling out America to Russia. After the republican senate
voted to let Trump walk on his multiple crimes he now thinks not only is he above the law but
that he is the law.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
6. Manafort's been in jail for a while now
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:20 AM
Feb 2020

he could have pardoned him any time over the past few years.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
7. After the election win or lose Trump will pardon him
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:23 AM
Feb 2020

At least that is what I think and I have never been wrong.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
9. I think if Donny Dollhands loses bigly
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:29 AM
Feb 2020

he's going to pardon himself and everybody around him for the Nixonian "Crimes They MAY have comitted"

Hopefully, he will lose the self pardon issue, but I don't think they could stop him pardoning everybody else.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
10. Any standards and norms are so long gone it is hard to know what is gonna happen.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:33 AM
Feb 2020

Hopefully the charges in N.Y. state stick and Donny can't pardon those charges.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
11. Barr is going to try to use the Supremacy clause
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:43 AM
Feb 2020

to prevent Trump from being indicted at the state level.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
4. I can see Stone being at the top of the list
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:43 AM
Feb 2020

Manafort, maybe slightly more than 50/50

Flynn, Papadopolous, and Gates no chance in hell. Trump could care less about them.

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