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SKKY

(12,811 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:05 PM Feb 2020

I have been in Spain for the past two weeks (I lived here for several....

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the General Discussion forum).

...years while in the military.) visiting friends and family, and have conducted a very non-scientific survey of who the Democratic candidate should be from the Spanish perspective. Much to my surprise, all think Bernie Sanders would be the wise choice to take on, and ultimately to take out Trump.

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I have been in Spain for the past two weeks (I lived here for several.... (Original Post) SKKY Feb 2020 OP
Trump certainly fears Biden cyclonefence Feb 2020 #1
I like Biden as well... SKKY Feb 2020 #2
I don't think Trump fears Biden, I just think he figures Biden would be the candidate. OliverQ Feb 2020 #14
If I were you.... I'd stay in Spain permanently world wide wally Feb 2020 #3
The thought has crossed my mind. SKKY Feb 2020 #4
You are smart world wide wally Feb 2020 #5
I'm desperate to move to Europe or Canada right now myself OliverQ Feb 2020 #15
That just means they don't know Sanders that well Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #6
No, it means they don't know AMERICANS all that well lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #8
With all due respect to the Spaniards - I love them and their country, but their advise on Politics Pachamama Feb 2020 #7
+ 2naSalit Feb 2020 #10
You shouldn't be surprised Wabbajack_ Feb 2020 #9
I concur. lunatica Feb 2020 #11
+1 leftstreet Feb 2020 #13
I was just in Spain all day today DFW Feb 2020 #12
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Feb 2020 #16

cyclonefence

(5,166 posts)
1. Trump certainly fears Biden
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:07 PM
Feb 2020

and for that reason alone I would vote for him. That, and to foil Trump's shitty plan to ruin Biden's good name.

Of course, at this point I'd vote for my dead grandmother. She was a democrat.

SKKY

(12,811 posts)
2. I like Biden as well...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:10 PM
Feb 2020

...but like you, I’m a Yellow Dog Democrat this time.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
14. I don't think Trump fears Biden, I just think he figures Biden would be the candidate.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:37 PM
Feb 2020

Lev Parnas released a secret tape of a dinner with Trump and Trump said he's worried about running against Bernie.

Probably the only one that can beat a populist is another populist.

world wide wally

(21,836 posts)
3. If I were you.... I'd stay in Spain permanently
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:12 PM
Feb 2020

SKKY

(12,811 posts)
4. The thought has crossed my mind.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:14 PM
Feb 2020

world wide wally

(21,836 posts)
5. You are smart
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:15 PM
Feb 2020
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
15. I'm desperate to move to Europe or Canada right now myself
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:38 PM
Feb 2020

but I have no means to do so (can't get a work visa there). My mental health can't handle living in the US anymore.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
6. That just means they don't know Sanders that well
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:15 PM
Feb 2020

lapfog_1

(31,975 posts)
8. No, it means they don't know AMERICANS all that well
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:17 PM
Feb 2020

compared to most Europeans we are isolationist and racist.

Sadly.

Pachamama

(17,565 posts)
7. With all due respect to the Spaniards - I love them and their country, but their advise on Politics
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:17 PM
Feb 2020

...is the last thing I would ask of them...



2naSalit

(103,805 posts)
10. +
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:47 PM
Feb 2020

Wabbajack_

(1,300 posts)
9. You shouldn't be surprised
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:46 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie Sanders would be a mainstream social democrat in Europe, wouldn't be considered all that "left". Only here is he vilified.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
11. I concur.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:58 PM
Feb 2020

In the US the lowest common denominator is the level of political intelligence.

leftstreet

(41,244 posts)
13. +1
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:36 PM
Feb 2020

DFW

(60,423 posts)
12. I was just in Spain all day today
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:24 PM
Feb 2020

I was there for work, not to query the population on their preferences in the Democratic Primaries. Not everyone I talked to knew I was American. I was in a part of Spain where "Spanish (i.e. Castilian)" is not the main language, and the people there assume that if you speak the local language (Catalan) well, you are probably NOT American (and they are usually right--I am somewhat of an exception).

My friends there, of course, all know I speak Catalan. The little time we spent on US politics was mostly about "aquest boix (ah-KET BAWTCH)"--or "that fool," meaning Trump), and mostly not spent on the primaries. My Catalan friends barely know who Bernie Sanders is, and in fact only are really familiar with Joe Biden's name. That is not necessarily a preference--it's just an indication of how little profile the other Democratic candidates have with urban Catalans, rarely the most polled bloc of EU citizens.

Now, keep in mind that while urban Catalans are intelligent, informed people, they are mostly interested in issues that will immediately affect them: their own separatist advocates, Brexit--there is a large British community in Barcelona--and its consequences for commerce, and local environmental issues. They couldn't less about "Bernie who?" unless he becomes the nominee, and it will probably remain that way. This also went for my main two colleagues living there who are not Catalan. One, though he speaks Catalan, will not speak it with me, since he is from Málaga, and knows I speak Castilian. The other is Ukrainian, and speaks to me in a mix of Russian and Castilian so confusingly intermeshed that only the two of us understand it.

Omaha Steve

(109,916 posts)
16. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:37 PM
Feb 2020

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