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Third Stone Prosecutor just withdrew. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2020 OP
Allowing Trump to replace them with MAGA loyalists. eom guillaumeb Feb 2020 #1
It's the Saturday Night Massacre model dpibel Feb 2020 #6
My point is that Trump, and his co-conspirators, want to drive out guillaumeb Feb 2020 #10
Whats going on? This is looking sickening. krissey Feb 2020 #2
I agree. n/t EndlessWire Feb 2020 #21
OMG Sanity Claws Feb 2020 #3
Barr is purging the DOJ of non-believers dalton99a Feb 2020 #4
Actually, the non-believers are making a stand. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2020 #5
Good for them. Maybe now someone will step up and do something. blueinredohio Feb 2020 #9
Weren't all of these guys present when Stone violated the court orders? Frustratedlady Feb 2020 #7
Judge Amy Berman Jackson is expected to sentence Stone on Feb 27th wishstar Feb 2020 #15
Don't they just appeal it up to the Kavanaugh Kourt? Still In Wisconsin Feb 2020 #17
I thought it was Judge Jackson, but we've seen so many in so many cases...hard to keep track. Frustratedlady Feb 2020 #18
This country gets more fucked over by the minute. Thanks to the GOP. BigmanPigman Feb 2020 #8
I know....I am constantly angry....I yell, I scream, I swear, I drink, I smoke weed..... a kennedy Feb 2020 #19
I hope the judge tells them to get fucked and gives him the max sentence Buckeyeblue Feb 2020 #11
and this is all okay with republicans in congress and elsewhere????? spanone Feb 2020 #12
Here we go, kids... 2naSalit Feb 2020 #13
We have hit code red. dhol82 Feb 2020 #14
Good news! Kota Feb 2020 #16
The judge will likely throw the book at Stone now Zolorp Feb 2020 #20

dpibel

(2,826 posts)
6. It's the Saturday Night Massacre model
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:49 PM
Feb 2020

Lawyers have little wiggle room in situations like this. Either do what the client says or withdraw (with the exception of the client asking for something illegal which, strictly speaking, this is not).

When Nixon ordered the firing of the special prosecutor, he got resignations until Robert Bork stepped up to do the deed.

To immediately jump to "that just helps Trump" kind of misses the point here.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
10. My point is that Trump, and his co-conspirators, want to drive out
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:55 PM
Feb 2020

every person of integrity so Trump can surround himself with toadies.

Sanity Claws

(21,840 posts)
3. OMG
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:43 PM
Feb 2020

This is not normal.
Nothing about this Administration is normal.

These guys know a lot about the Mueller investigations that were stopped. Wonder if the House investigators would be interested in hiring them.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
5. Actually, the non-believers are making a stand.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:47 PM
Feb 2020

They cannot in good faith go before the judge and say, "Yes, I know we did previously recommend 7-9 years in prison for the Defendant, but now we're totally cool with community service."

No. They made an oath, and they are abiding by it.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
9. Good for them. Maybe now someone will step up and do something.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:50 PM
Feb 2020

I don't know what can be done but someone does.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
7. Weren't all of these guys present when Stone violated the court orders?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:49 PM
Feb 2020

Wasn't there a female judge who dressed down Stone on his constant disrespect for the court by not following orders? What was it, three or four times he had to be called back for discipline? Maybe she'll remove herself from this case, as well.

The whole bunch lied and violated the courts...Manafort, Stone, Flynn...

Good on the attorneys for serving notice.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
15. Judge Amy Berman Jackson is expected to sentence Stone on Feb 27th
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:04 PM
Feb 2020

Doubt she will remove herself after all she has gone through to get him to abide by her orders and presiding over his conviction.

Refusal of the 3 prosecutors to go along with Trump/Barr's orders for downward revision of their recommendation gives her credibility to give Stone significant prison time but as I recall she was the sentencing judge for Manafort and gave him the low end of recommended time.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
18. I thought it was Judge Jackson, but we've seen so many in so many cases...hard to keep track.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:14 PM
Feb 2020

Thanks for the info.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
8. This country gets more fucked over by the minute. Thanks to the GOP.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:49 PM
Feb 2020

It just gets worse and worse. My anger has never been this bad in my whole life (and I get ANGRY). I was speaking with a Dem surveyor yesterday that I see often outside my local store and we were discussing how much we hate all three evil monsters (Barr, tRump and Moscow Mitch). We hate them so much we often have a hard time even finding the words.

a kennedy

(29,615 posts)
19. I know....I am constantly angry....I yell, I scream, I swear, I drink, I smoke weed.....
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:15 PM
Feb 2020

only thing that helps, is watching movies, exercise, and NO MORE WATCHING POLITICAL SHOWS except, Nicole AND Rachel. DAMN THIS ORANGE PIECE OF SHIT, AND ALL HIS DAMN MOBSTERS HAVE GOT TO BE STOPPED.

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
13. Here we go, kids...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:02 PM
Feb 2020

Remember when we were going to march in the streets if Mueller got fired?

Joyce Alene Vance is saying this is a 4 alarm fire.

 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
20. The judge will likely throw the book at Stone now
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:18 PM
Feb 2020

She does not have to pay one whit of attention to the new sentencing recommendations.

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