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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:02 PM Feb 2020

BREAKING-Trump says the military should consider disciplining Vindman



Phil Stewart ✔@phildstewart

BREAKING-Trump says the military should consider disciplining former White House National Security Council aide Alexander Vindman, who provided some of the most damaging testimony during the House impeachment probe, He was ousted from his White House job last week.

4:51 PM - Feb 11, 2020


This, too is frightening. Vindman did nothing wrong.
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BREAKING-Trump says the military should consider disciplining Vindman (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 OP
F**k Trump! Maybe the Pentagon needs to save America. sinkingfeeling Feb 2020 #1
Can't Democrats get any mileage out of Trump's persecution of Vindman? book_worm Feb 2020 #2
... handmade34 Feb 2020 #3
If the military do Trump's bidding then we know the fix is in. lunatica Feb 2020 #4
That's it, you slime. ZenDem Feb 2020 #5
Scary news day. He is a monster. Glimmer of Hope Feb 2020 #6
Give Vindman a medal. C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #7
K&R... spanone Feb 2020 #8
So says commander bone spurs...yeah, sure. Like you know what service to this Country... SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #9
This MF'er just doesn't quit! shanti Feb 2020 #10
Since Vindman's in the Army it's called the stockade Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #14
Oops, my bad! shanti Feb 2020 #15
No Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #17
Vindman is 1,000,000,000,000,000 times the man bluestarone Feb 2020 #11
If the military does this, becomes just another corrupted institution for him to shit on... First Speaker Feb 2020 #12
On what charge? n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #13
Should we expect resignations until he finds sychophants who will do it? Flaleftist Feb 2020 #16
He wasn't loyal to Trump. EndlessWire Feb 2020 #18
Oath of Allegiance - Pre and post 1934 keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #21
Hmmm, this gives Vindman a get out of jail free card. Any CoC willing to prosecute Vindman now ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #19
This is so shameful Horse with no Name Feb 2020 #20

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
2. Can't Democrats get any mileage out of Trump's persecution of Vindman?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:05 PM
Feb 2020

And why is the media giving Trump a pass as usual?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. If the military do Trump's bidding then we know the fix is in.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:07 PM
Feb 2020

We’ll know for sure, just like we know for sure that the Senate is rotting with corruption.

ZenDem

(442 posts)
5. That's it, you slime.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:08 PM
Feb 2020

Reward the war criminals, publicly humiliate and disrespect their superiors and then persecute the genuine patriots.

You suck...at everything.

Vindman will be remembered throughout history as an honorable and courageous man. Trump? Not.

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
9. So says commander bone spurs...yeah, sure. Like you know what service to this Country...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:57 PM
Feb 2020

consists of. Sarcasm.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,900 posts)
14. Since Vindman's in the Army it's called the stockade
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:16 PM
Feb 2020

My dad was career Navy while I did 3 years in the Army. It was interesting comparing the different terminology between the two branches of military service.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
15. Oops, my bad!
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:35 PM
Feb 2020

But you got the gist of it. My dad was also career military, 20 years with the Air Force. I'm not sure what they call jail.

BTW, to another military brat! Did you live overseas? Dad did 4 years in Japan.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
12. If the military does this, becomes just another corrupted institution for him to shit on...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:12 PM
Feb 2020

...then the nation really is lost.

EndlessWire

(6,509 posts)
18. He wasn't loyal to Trump.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:16 PM
Feb 2020

He was loyal to the Constitution, not Trump. That's what he did wrong.

Hitler changed the oath to an oath that pledged allegiance *to Hitler.* Watch for that.

The Military services are watching all this: war crimes are forgiven while stripes are taken, calling the brass "dopers and babies," and threatening those who answered a Congressional subpoena and told the truth. He turned his back on the Kurds, saluted NK brass... etc. Oh, I almost forgot his love affair with Little Kim.

He is only one man. He can't complete his grand plan without their loyalty. Yes, they follow orders, but at the top, who would have to be the ones to make a move, is he really sure that they respect him enough to do his bidding? He treats them with utter disrespect.

Call him out on 25A. I don't think that will fly, but it would have other uses...

I'm afraid that he will start purging anyone in the military who refuses to discipline Vindman. That's what he did during the war crimes saga: he punished the people above.

Are there no Republicans with ties to the military? How can they bear this?

keithbvadu2

(36,765 posts)
21. Oath of Allegiance - Pre and post 1934
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:37 PM
Feb 2020

Oath of Allegiance - Pre and post 1934
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-fuehrer-oath

(before August 2, 1934)
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will at all times loyally and honestly
serve my people and country
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."

The Fuehrer Oath
(effective August 2, 1934)
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will render unconditional obedience
to the Fuehrer of the German Reich and people, Adolf Hitler,
Supreme Commander of the Wehrmacht,
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
19. Hmmm, this gives Vindman a get out of jail free card. Any CoC willing to prosecute Vindman now ...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:20 PM
Feb 2020

... without Vindman shooting someone on 5th ave is going to be tainted for life ... even after discharge from service.

Very interesting to see how many sycophants we have in service now

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