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kpete

(71,979 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 06:59 PM Feb 2020

Barr Needs to Soften Roger Stone's Sentence to Prevent Him from Talking about Trump's Involvement

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The trial itself provided ample evidence of what Mark Meadows considers “collusion” involving Donald Trump personally. It showed the campaign — and probably Trump personally — were working through Stone to optimize the WikiLeaks releases from the very day they came out on June 14, 2016. It showed that Stone was informing Trump personally about his efforts to optimize the releases.After some arm-twisting to adhere to his grand jury testimony, Steve Bannon testified he knew of all this, contrary to some of what he had said in earlier testimony that Trump would learn about. Erik Prince was in the loop. Gates testified that Stone was strategizing with Jared Kushner on all this. And it appears that Paul Manafort was in the loop, too.

But all that really damning evidence came out in a trial that only had to prove that Stone had lied to cover up the actions he took to optimize the release of the WikiLeaks emails. The trial did not need to explain what Stone’s actual back channel was, what he had to do to obtain it, and how involved Trump was in that process. And the trial did not explain it.

Indeed, there’s evidence I’ll lay out at more length in a follow-up that the government chose not to lay out all it knew. That is, it appears the government came to trial prepared to present evidence about the underlying “collusion,” but ultimately decided to hold it back for now.

At multiple times during the trial, however, the prosecution pointed to suspiciously timed phone calls, right before or after Stone discussed WikiLeaks with Gates, Manafort, or Jerome Corsi. Only Stone or Trump can tell us what happened between the two men, what Trump’s actual role in maximizing the degree to which his campaign benefitted from Russia’s theft of his opponent’s email.



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https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/02/11/bill-barr-needs-to-soften-roger-stones-sentence-to-bury-proof-of-collusion/


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Barr Needs to Soften Roger Stone's Sentence to Prevent Him from Talking about Trump's Involvement (Original Post) kpete Feb 2020 OP
as much as i respect marcy, i don't agree. the trial is over. stone isn't the singing type. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #1
Indeed, she should know that. dewsgirl Feb 2020 #4
It is a bit more subtle lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #2
No self-respecting judge should sign off on Barr's BS request C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #3
Well, now we know why Republicans like government: Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #5
I remember the Saturday Night Massacre, but this beats that fiasco in speed, if nothing else. Frustratedlady Feb 2020 #6

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
1. as much as i respect marcy, i don't agree. the trial is over. stone isn't the singing type.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:04 PM
Feb 2020

this is about flaunting and normalizing criminality.

lapfog_1

(29,194 posts)
2. It is a bit more subtle
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:04 PM
Feb 2020

If the judge imposes a sentence similar to the original guidelines... this gives Trump the opportunity to pardon him.

If the judge gives him almost no time in prison ( like 1 year ) then Trump does nothing and Stone toughs it out.

C_U_L8R

(44,996 posts)
3. No self-respecting judge should sign off on Barr's BS request
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:06 PM
Feb 2020

The corruption is plain for all to see.

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
5. Well, now we know why Republicans like government:
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:07 PM
Feb 2020

Easier to pass on payola, bribes and inducements. And if that doesn't work, they can through you in a federal prison and throw away the key.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
6. I remember the Saturday Night Massacre, but this beats that fiasco in speed, if nothing else.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 07:12 PM
Feb 2020

Barr can't hide much more. His credibility has been dead for a long time.

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