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MSNBC's Nicole Wallace mentioned tonight that she had worked for candidate Sarah Palin. (Original Post) milestogo Feb 2020 OP
Smarter than mentioning it or smarter than doing it? Stinky The Clown Feb 2020 #1
Oh, I didn't know that. milestogo Feb 2020 #7
Really? You should watch the movie Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #20
Right. empedocles Feb 2020 #31
My favorite part was near the end in the hotel hallway with Schmidt. aeromanKC Feb 2020 #56
Will need to rewatch. I think the whole thing was just Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #58
Absolutely! kentuck Feb 2020 #57
What movie? Delmette2.0 Feb 2020 #67
Game Change. Movie about campaign. Excellent Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #69
Thank you. I'll find it. Delmette2.0 Feb 2020 #75
John Heileman cilla4progress Feb 2020 #77
Ex-Republican is why I can never trust her. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #2
I have wondered that as well....... a kennedy Feb 2020 #16
lol that makes zero sense obamanut2012 Feb 2020 #40
I can't trust her because once a Republican. I should have made that clear. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #44
kinda like... Elizabeth Warren... wyldwolf Feb 2020 #63
Neither of them worked for an administration as far as I know. rzemanfl Feb 2020 #66
ah, I new caveat. So the goal post now is 'worked for an administration.' wyldwolf Feb 2020 #68
Wasn't Dipshit once a Dem? Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #70
Trump? Being from NY, he donated and hobnobbed with Dems wyldwolf Feb 2020 #71
I have now moved the goalpost to possibly having voted for a Republican for rzemanfl Feb 2020 #79
OMG.... FarPoint Feb 2020 #54
She didn't vote at all. nt tblue37 Feb 2020 #64
and a Bush insider malaise Feb 2020 #61
You are so ❤️ less. Lol Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #73
Hehehehhehe malaise Feb 2020 #74
Do you feel the same way about Warren and Bloomberg? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #81
Please see my exchange with wyldwolf above. rzemanfl Feb 2020 #82
Bloomberg supported Bush in 2004 Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #83
I will vote for whomever the Democratic nominee is. rzemanfl Feb 2020 #84
Fair enough Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #85
She Was On McCains Presidential Campaign With Steve Schmidt Me. Feb 2020 #3
Really.........ummmmmm let me re-think my opinion. a kennedy Feb 2020 #17
I Believe She Has Gone Through A Lot Of Changes Since Me. Feb 2020 #21
Why we need pragmatists, not purists, in these times. empedocles Feb 2020 #33
I hear from friends that's true, I just can't get past grating voice. Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #45
She has. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #49
... Me. Feb 2020 #59
She worked with Mike Schmidt on the McCain 2008 campaign. RandySF Feb 2020 #4
Was she the back up third baseman for the Phillies? greenjar_01 Feb 2020 #14
She can go hard to her left PCIntern Feb 2020 #22
LOL! madinmaryland Feb 2020 #80
You mean Steve Schmidt, I think (n/t) PJMcK Feb 2020 #28
she was on McCain '08 with Steve Schmidt katusha Feb 2020 #5
Yeah, that's not a particular secret. Music Man Feb 2020 #6
She did not vote. 3catwoman3 Feb 2020 #10
Well, the alternative was a negro for whom she could of course not bring herself to vote jberryhill Feb 2020 #27
Well said (n/t) PJMcK Feb 2020 #30
You are So right snowybirdie Feb 2020 #38
Agree. I think if there was a good, decent, fiscally Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #47
Sarah cured Nicole of conservatism 🙄 Devilsun Feb 2020 #8
Well, that's a good thing. milestogo Feb 2020 #9
She did not vote obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2020 #11
Scuttlebutt is she did -- for Obama obamanut2012 Feb 2020 #41
Nicole is pretty smart. Sarah is as dumb as a box of rocks. I'll bet it was quite an ordeal for Cousin Dupree Feb 2020 #12
Well, Nicole is smarter than Sarah... Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #13
Low Bar ProfessorGAC Feb 2020 #23
I will not argue that point... Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #50
If you get a chance watch Game Change sometime, it's an HBO movie DesertRat Feb 2020 #15
One of my favorite films eissa Feb 2020 #19
Movies are great jberryhill Feb 2020 #29
I'd pretend the movie created heroes out of them too. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #46
Nicolle was working for McCain, but was assigned to bring Wasilla Barbie up to speed. The experience Hekate Feb 2020 #18
thanks, I will check it out milestogo Feb 2020 #25
Book was very good also empedocles Feb 2020 #32
+1 dalton99a Feb 2020 #55
She's also said numerous times she's going to vote for every single Democrat octoberlib Feb 2020 #24
It's never been a secret... Mike Nelson Feb 2020 #26
She was campaign chair along with Steve Schmidt for McCain. madaboutharry Feb 2020 #34
It's good that she could afford that jberryhill Feb 2020 #36
You are really off base in your criticism here. madaboutharry Feb 2020 #37
Good for her jberryhill Feb 2020 #39
You appear more invested in her than anyone else on the thread. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #48
Didnt you watch Game Change? She was played by Sarah Paulson. GREAT movie!!! samnsara Feb 2020 #35
Nicole is nowhere near the repub she was back then... cynatnite Feb 2020 #42
If you have Amazon Prime, Game Change is on mahina Feb 2020 #43
She worked for McCain, Rider3 Feb 2020 #51
Everyone has to come from somewhere Generic Brad Feb 2020 #52
Thank you. People do change. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #60
I once heard Nicole tell an interesting story. mainstreetonce Feb 2020 #53
She worked on the McCain Campaign. Greybnk48 Feb 2020 #62
Never forget "pals around with terrorists" sueunderh Feb 2020 #65
When you have a job and are assigned a task you do it HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #72
there's a movie about Nicole's work with Palin. underthematrix Feb 2020 #76
She was made Klondike Kardashian's handler RhodeIslandOne Feb 2020 #78

Stinky The Clown

(67,796 posts)
1. Smarter than mentioning it or smarter than doing it?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:21 PM
Feb 2020

She was sorta pressed into it, along with Steve Schmidt, but the McCain campaign. She also made no bones about the fact she was not happy doing it and thought her candidate was a moron.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
7. Oh, I didn't know that.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:24 PM
Feb 2020

I wouldn't think less of her for being on the McCain campaign. But it was odd to hear Palin mentioned in the same discussion as Klobuchar. Palin was a joke.

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
56. My favorite part was near the end in the hotel hallway with Schmidt.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:42 AM
Feb 2020

When Nicole told him I just couldn't do it. I didn't vote for him.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
58. Will need to rewatch. I think the whole thing was just
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:46 AM
Feb 2020

A huge backfire on them. Didn't realize the depth.

Delmette2.0

(4,164 posts)
67. What movie?
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:13 PM
Feb 2020

I probably heard about it and dismissed it because I had enough of Palin. Now I think I could watch it.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
69. Game Change. Movie about campaign. Excellent
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:08 PM
Feb 2020

history of 2008 election. The book is extremely well written

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
16. I have wondered that as well.......
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:30 AM
Feb 2020

She was a very high up Republican......I wonder is and when a “normal” republican gets back in power......does she turn back....

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
40. lol that makes zero sense
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:13 AM
Feb 2020

Read Game Change, watch Game Change. Wallace hated Plain, hated her, and actually voted for Obama, and basically left the GOP over all of it.

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
66. Neither of them worked for an administration as far as I know.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:49 AM
Feb 2020

I may have voted for a Republican Register of Deeds or Register in Probate sometime in the previous century.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
68. ah, I new caveat. So the goal post now is 'worked for an administration.'
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:39 PM
Feb 2020

btw, Warren left the Republican party in 1996 or 1998, depending on who you ask. Just 10-12 years before Nicole Wallace worked in the administration.

"last century" is hardly descriptive of a middle aged woman who promoted the merits of free markets and supported trickle down economics.

But... ok.

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
79. I have now moved the goalpost to possibly having voted for a Republican for
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:42 PM
Feb 2020

Register of Deeds or Register in Probate sometime in one's adult life. Now I can no longer trust myself. I keep hiding my wallet from myself, but then I always find it. Whatever will I do?

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
82. Please see my exchange with wyldwolf above.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:30 PM
Feb 2020

My tolerance for Republicans was reduced to zero by the 2000 Presidential Election. These are extraordinary times. Defeating Drumpf and retaking the Senate are the preeminent goals. We are going to need any help we can get, even from former Republicans. There's no reason not to be wary and keep an eye on them though.

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
84. I will vote for whomever the Democratic nominee is.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:46 PM
Feb 2020

Our cat would be a better President than Drumpf. I may not be happy about the nominee but these are extraordinary times.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
3. She Was On McCains Presidential Campaign With Steve Schmidt
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:22 PM
Feb 2020

and she was assigned to Palin. Apparently it was quite an ordeal and she later wrote a book about it. Palin was rather vicious when talking about Nicolle.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
21. I Believe She Has Gone Through A Lot Of Changes Since
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:22 AM
Feb 2020

and some days she is the only one of the pundits making sense. She at least is hobest ebough to call bs when it appears.

Happy Hoosier

(7,295 posts)
49. She has.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:51 AM
Feb 2020

She has said repeatedly that it took Trump to make her reevaluate her views and her loyalty to the Republican party. I identify with her since I had a "Road to Jerusalem" moment in my early twenties.

RandySF

(58,797 posts)
4. She worked with Mike Schmidt on the McCain 2008 campaign.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:22 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:13 AM - Edit history (1)

Wallace was stuck managing Palin.

katusha

(809 posts)
5. she was on McCain '08 with Steve Schmidt
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:22 PM
Feb 2020

didn't work FOR Palin as much as with Palin, and she has never hid her disdain for her.

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
6. Yeah, that's not a particular secret.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:24 PM
Feb 2020

Nicole Wallace is a long-time Republican and was an adviser on John McCain's campaign. To her credit, she seems to have reformed a lot, and she apparently had misgivings about Palin (notably conveyed in Game Change). Legend has it she didn't vote in 2008. Crazy, right?

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
10. She did not vote.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:50 PM
Feb 2020

Couldn’t bring herself to pull the lever, so to speak, with Backwoods Barbie on the ticket.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. Well, the alternative was a negro for whom she could of course not bring herself to vote
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:32 AM
Feb 2020

So she did the “noble” thing by not voting.

And that is somehow supposed to show character.

snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
38. You are So right
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:06 AM
Feb 2020

Like her show and she says the things we DUers support, BUT, deep down, where do her real sympathies lie? If a "normal" Republican took office, where would she go?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
47. Agree. I think if there was a good, decent, fiscally
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:44 AM
Feb 2020

Conservative, socially liberal Republican to ever exist again, she, Schmidt, and Joe S. would all support them. But hell if that happened our whole world would have healed.

Cousin Dupree

(1,866 posts)
12. Nicole is pretty smart. Sarah is as dumb as a box of rocks. I'll bet it was quite an ordeal for
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:06 AM
Feb 2020

Nicole to try to jam some smarts into that blockhead. I think at this point that Nicole may be a recovering repuglican.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
15. If you get a chance watch Game Change sometime, it's an HBO movie
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:18 AM
Feb 2020

Sarah Paulsen was stellar as Nicolle Wallace as was Julianne Moore as Palin. Here's a clip:

eissa

(4,238 posts)
19. One of my favorite films
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:10 AM
Feb 2020

And the reason why I cut Nicole and Steve so much slack. I may not agree with them on everything politically, but they’re decent people who try to do the right thing.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
29. Movies are great
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:34 AM
Feb 2020

After spending all their effort trying to fuck this country over, it is good to have someone else make them out to be heroes.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
46. I'd pretend the movie created heroes out of them too.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:41 AM
Feb 2020

It's not correct, but damn the accuracy and full speed ahead... our confirmation biases don't care about truth.

Hekate

(90,667 posts)
18. Nicolle was working for McCain, but was assigned to bring Wasilla Barbie up to speed. The experience
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 12:54 AM
Feb 2020

...was so horrible that Nicolle Wallace, lifelong Republican, did not vote for John McCain. She could not countenance Sarah Palin being a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Read Game Change. Or see the movie.

Anyway, as of Trump's election, Nicolle is no longer a Republican, either. None of this journey is a secret.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
24. She's also said numerous times she's going to vote for every single Democrat
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:12 AM
Feb 2020

on the ballot in 2020. She is smarter than that.

Mike Nelson

(9,953 posts)
26. It's never been a secret...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:31 AM
Feb 2020

... she's mentioned it several times. Fortunately, she was smarter than that... Nicole would have had an easier road to a FOX contract, but she did the correct thing.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
34. She was campaign chair along with Steve Schmidt for McCain.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:44 AM
Feb 2020

McCain put her in the job of working with Palin after McCain chose Palin for the VP slot.

Nicolle came to the conclusion that Palin was so ignorant and dangerous that on election day Nicolle DID NOT VOTE.

Nicolle also has said that she was so traumatized by having to work with Palin during the 2008 election that she became so depressed that she required psychiatric care.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
36. It's good that she could afford that
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:03 AM
Feb 2020

Imagine how awful it would be if she had not gotten away with enough money.

But, yes, she was so overwrought that she did not vote for McCain. Of course, she did not vote for that negro candidate, but that’s understandable.

Her poor fragile psyche.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
37. You are really off base in your criticism here.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:05 AM
Feb 2020

I find over the top attacks on people who try to do the right thing off putting. Nicolle Wallace is an honest person. She has left the republican party.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
39. Good for her
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:09 AM
Feb 2020

I can’t believe how emotionally invested people get in wealthy people on TV.

I think she’ll do just fine without my fawning.

Hot tip - Nicole Wallace doesn’t give a shit what your opinion is either.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
48. You appear more invested in her than anyone else on the thread.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:45 AM
Feb 2020

Investment as you know, can be either from good will or simply sour grapes.

But I get it.. indicting others for the very things we do is often a requirement when our own standards quickly and conveniently shift.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
35. Didnt you watch Game Change? She was played by Sarah Paulson. GREAT movie!!!
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:58 AM
Feb 2020

.. I watch it every time I see it on tv.

Rider3

(919 posts)
51. She worked for McCain,
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:34 AM
Feb 2020

...thus, Palin. I was taken aback at that, too. She was in W's white house, though. That screams a lot of information. I think Trump made a lot of people rethink their politics. Some, not all (unfortunately).

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
52. Everyone has to come from somewhere
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:38 AM
Feb 2020

People grow. Change. Evolve.

Are we supposed to enforce cancel culture on anyone who once worked for someone we don't like or made an inappropriate blog comment 15 years ago? We would have no one left to rapture for our liberal purity heaven.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
60. Thank you. People do change.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:57 AM
Feb 2020

Or become enlightened. As has been pointed out elsewhere, Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren were once Republicans, too. Some go to the dark side. Trump used to be a Democrat. The only thing that’s relevant is where they are now.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
53. I once heard Nicole tell an interesting story.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:38 AM
Feb 2020

The question of how does the 25 amendment works came up.
Nicole said she had studied it because if McCain had won they were going to have to use it on Palin.

After McCain chose Palin ,his team learned she was mentally ill.

sueunderh

(26 posts)
65. Never forget "pals around with terrorists"
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:19 AM
Feb 2020

I like Wallace's show. I make a point to watch it at 4 p.m. when I can. But I will never forget that she handed the despicable smear "pals around with terrorists" to Sarah Palin.

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/21044/

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
72. When you have a job and are assigned a task you do it
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 01:14 PM
Feb 2020

Or at least most people do. Did you bother to investigate further? Spoiler alert: They hated each other.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
76. there's a movie about Nicole's work with Palin.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 02:47 PM
Feb 2020

GAME CHANGE - it is an amazing movie. Palin was an crazy as a bed bug.

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