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boston bean

(36,219 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:53 AM Feb 2020

Will the prospect of 4 more years of Trump be enough to

persuade all people and groups Democrats rely on to oust the criminal in Nov?

Or do we need to woo people.

Me, I think the prospect of 4 more years of Commandant will be enough to motivate people off their asses.

But am interested to know how others feel.

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. It darn sure ought to be enough, but a lot of folks just don't care. Worse, there are many
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:59 AM
Feb 2020

white wingers who are fine with the Racist-in-Chief, even if they aren't vocal about it.

catbyte

(34,341 posts)
2. Sadly, no. Remember how certain republicans were of a Romney Tsunami in 2012?
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:01 AM
Feb 2020

They were certain that everybody hated President Obama as much as they did and were shocked when he was re-elected by such a large margin. I do not give the average American credit for noticing this despicable, illegal, and unconstitutional behavior so we must work harder than we've EVER worked to defeat this cancer on the planet.

dubyadiprecession

(5,697 posts)
4. Maybe Orangatan Ass will have a "Big Mac attack" on his health.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:05 AM
Feb 2020

His clogged arteries might send him off with Limbaugh before November.

Vogon_Glory

(9,110 posts)
10. Don't count on it
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:28 AM
Feb 2020

While the thought of Orange Julius having to dicker with a guy like St. Pete at the Pearly Gates who’s dealt with and seen through countless lying BS artists before Orange Julius was even conceived right after the National Convention, I don’t think our party or the USA would be that lucky.

Johonny

(20,820 posts)
5. I think you need people like Bernie, Yang, Bloomberg and Obama out there. They have Charisma
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:05 AM
Feb 2020

they bring workers that go the extra mile. Even if one of the dull moderates win the nominee, YAWN, you need someone that can get voters out. I mean in 2018, you had a Texas senate seat that could of been taken. All they needed was to get the Latino under count out to vote. But they didn't come out in huge numbers. Even with kids in cages. That a DNC failing. That's a sign of a campaign that didn't know how to get people to the polls. In 2020 October we need Yang going to college campuses, we need Bloomberg's TV ads, we need PResident Obama and Clinton out on the road getting their people to the vote. At takes a village to beat a big money cult machine.

TwilightZone

(25,429 posts)
9. "All they needed was to get the Latino under count out to vote."
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:24 AM
Feb 2020

The Latino turnout problem in Texas is a multi-generational, cultural issue that Democrats have been working to improve (with some success) for decades. Ingrained institutional issues aren't generally solved overnight by a few campus visits and ads or a magic wand. Blaming the DNC for everything is misguided, at best.

Squinch

(50,922 posts)
8. Sadly neither. I fear that it will not be enough because people's
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:22 AM
Feb 2020

memories are short. Very short. Anger caused one group to ruin the uniting that was supposed to happen in the last convention, and we had an idea then what we were up against.

Rather than wooing, I think we need to all be very vigilant against bots and ratfuckers. None of the candidates who are left is my first choice. None is the one I wanted to see President. I have issues with ALL of them.

But I dont care. Show me someone who looks like he can beat Filthy Donnie, and I don't care what else he's done.

I'm leaning now toward Bloomberg. I think he can win. I'm leaning toward him despite the fact that he hurt me personally by crapping on my union and reducing my pay, probably for the rest of my working life.

But I don't care. My Democracy means more to me than that and if trump stays, my Democracy dies.

I get that people have issues with candidates. But in a very real way, none of those issues matter. It's the Democracy, stupid. And if someone starts to badmouth ANY of the candidates, we all have to remember that. And as soon as there seems to be a clear front runner who the rest of the country is getting behind, EVERY ONE OF US has to get behind that person.

Because it's the Democracy, stupid. Without that, nothing else matters.

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