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(69,092 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)I dont care. I'll take it!!
RandySF
(69,092 posts)But it has intangible benefits.
soldierant
(7,736 posts)But there are benefits to having an honorific, certainly. Privilege.
I remember years ago reading a (much older) Mormon joke in which a family was discussing the new deacon Granny was hard of hearing, and Pa explained, "We're talking about the new DEACON! He's the son of a BISHOP!"
Granny: "Aren't they all?"
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Got a Temple recommend Card,hey you are the best.
jmowreader
(51,283 posts)The LDS doesnt have paid leadership at the local church level. Instead, each local church elects one man, who has to be married and to have gone through priesthood training (all Mormon men do this), to be the church bishop for typically between 4 and 7 years.
FreeState
(10,675 posts)Each local ward (parish) has A bishop that serves for 3-5 years (rarely more). They go through no training out side of being ordained with the lay priesthood - which all men in the church usually have. About 5% of Mormon men will ever be Bishops.
Source - life long LDS family with a Dad that was a Bishop.
AllaN01Bear
(22,785 posts)geneology center as she used their resources over the years . even went to salt lake a # of times . you dont have to be morman to use the centers . back to our original program, im glad he stood for his morals rather than stand behind that thing in the white house , and is a true rather than these false nationalists .
FreeState
(10,675 posts)The wards typically meet at a Stake Center ((Stake = Diocese, 3-5 Wards, they also have Ward Houses when the Stake is large enough to need several large building).
Born and raised LDS (my 4th great grandfather on one side was Marin Harris - dumb dumb dum [South Park reference].
soldierant
(7,736 posts)It wasn't aimed at you, certainly.
FreeState
(10,675 posts)Im not a believer
But a Deacon in Mormonism is a 12-14 year old boy - regardless of his fathers position
FreeState
(10,675 posts)Its a volunteer job of 3-5 years as a local pastor - no one gets benefits from it - its low man on the totem pole.
True Blue American
(18,124 posts)And I never cared for Romney.
But he did work with Democrats to get Romneycare in Massachusetts.
Fresh_Start
(11,339 posts)whether they were happy with the senators vote?
Kingofalldems
(39,145 posts)Fresh_Start
(11,339 posts)i haven't seen any surveys for other states either.
I have seen some editorials saying the senators aren't doing their duty
Danascot
(4,860 posts)I couldn't find any post-acquittal polls for Collins. The most recent poll I could find was taken by Morning Consult in mid-January. It found she was the "least popular senator in the country". Despite that dubious distinction she still voted to acquit.
"Morning Consult, which conducts quarterly surveys of every senators performance, released a poll last month that showed Collins as the least popular senator in the country, below even the polarizing Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Of those surveyed, 42 percent approved of her performance while 52 percent did not."
https://www.pressherald.com/2020/02/09/collins-chose-not-to-convict-in-trumps-impeachment-now-what/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/16/susan-collins-approval-rating/4495142002/
eleny
(46,166 posts)I don't want to wait that long. But it's coming.
IronLionZion
(46,827 posts)and it's the only poll that matters so it's time for some of these GOP Senators to find new careers in the private sector. I'm thinking Collins and Garner and McSally can be replaced by Dems.
RGTIndy
(203 posts)relative to other red states.
Wounded Bear
(60,354 posts)Well, hopefully they will stay home in Nov, or at least not pull the lever for Trump.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Mormons detest vulgar language, adultery, divorce, any kind of fraud or stealing, disrespect towards women, and cruelty to children. Plus Romney is a favorite son and a pillar of the Mormon community. Their religious beliefs don't make much sense to me, but they stick together to uphold family values. There is no way that Trump passes muster with Mormons.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)So they have to decide if their hatred for the Clintons and Democrats counts for more than their hatred for vulgarity and filthy language. At least here (Tallahassee), it's about neck and neck, and a lot of the people praising Romney are pretty liberal anyway.
Bryant
bucolic_frolic
(46,366 posts)Some still won't use USPS, so a vote against government is acceptable to them.
FreeState
(10,675 posts)Not - look how they treat LGBTQI family members or people that leave.
This is a talking point with very little truth in it that keeps getting repeated. LDS families are not friendly towards anyone that is not 100% a true believer. Thats not family values, that's a cult.
She_Totally_Gets_It
(142 posts)zentrum
(9,866 posts)safeinOhio
(33,835 posts)tRump has many more bridges to burn.
Warpy
(113,015 posts)They also see right through that blob of orange putrescence in the White House: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mckaycoppins/mormon-voters-really-dont-like-donald-trump-heres-why
We might despise them when they lean on our doorbells when we're getting out of the shower, but they've been a lot harder to fool than other Christians.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I remain convinced that most Republicans have some kind of integrity. Evidently, a lot of them live in Utah.
-Laelth
LisaM
(28,396 posts)Would have felt the same way.
BootinUp
(48,613 posts)orleans
(34,739 posts)DeminPennswoods
(16,006 posts)for this poll, fwiw. Given his reputation as a pollster, this poll might actually be even better than it is.
Pompoy
(145 posts)Based on the numbers of the Republicans who are unhappy with him over his vote, if he faced a primary this year, the odds are that he would have been show the door.
Which surprised me, The Trump cult is stronger than Mormon kinship.
How can they not see that he acted honorably? Don't they value honor?
greymattermom
(5,791 posts)who hide behind their religion should choose Alabama and Mississippi. And leave the rest of us alone. Houses are cheap there, just watch Home Town to verify that, so moving might work financially.That would leave them with 11 representatives and 4 senators. A few other states might join later. Indiana? Oklahoma? South Dakota? This should work.