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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,312 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 04:44 PM Feb 2020

Trump's New 'More American' Air Force One Is A Disgrace To The Name

"Modernism," you say.

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Trump's New 'More American' Air Force One Is A Disgrace To The Name

Max Finkel
Yesterday 5:35PM

Since the Kennedy Administration, the light-blue and white jet carrying the president has been more than just transportation for American leadership. It has been a symbol of what that leadership was meant to represent. An internationally-minded, forward-thinking ethos steeped in Modernism and Internationalism. Now, though, the White House is more America First than American Century and Air Force One is getting a new look to match.

An Air Force procurement publication revealed yesterday as part of the Department of Defense’s 2021 budget has confirmed what we had been fearing for months. The next plane to serve as Air Force One, which the Department of Defense hopes to have in service by 2024, will have a new livery supposedly designed by President Trump himself to look “more American.” The new paint will mean the Air Force is doing away with the classic Modernist scheme we’ve known for decades. And frankly, I think the new one looks awful.

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You see, back when the first Loewy-liveried planes (the 707-based VC-137s) came into presidential use during President Kennedy’s tenure in office, the State Department and the office of the presidency were already working together to cultivate an image of America as a leader in all fields. It was the American Century, after all, and if the United States was going to make good on its reshaping of the world order after World War II, it was going to need to make sure everyone knew it.

The idea was to use the avant-garde as a way to demonstrate what American freedoms and values could offer on the world stage. A really excellent book called Cold War Modernists by historian Greg Barnhisel lays out the whole story: The State Department was working with world-famous Modernist architects to bring impressive, occasionally even challenging design to capital cities around the world. These embassies would hold reading rooms filled with books that critics adored as the best America had on offer but some Congressmen (Joe McCarthy among them) wanted to ban. The State Department brought modern dancer Martha Graham and jazz trumpeter Louis Armstrong on tour to demonstrate that American tastes were as sophisticated as any, and they even surreptitiously published high-brow magazines for European audiences, asserting the legitimacy of American voices in left-leaning intellectual circles to tilt Western Europe away from the Iron Curtain. If America was going to face off against a comprehensive ideology like communism, it needed its own philosophical and aesthetic ethos to rally the West behind. It found one in Modernism.

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Trump's New 'More American' Air Force One Is A Disgrace To The Name (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2020 OP
In previous stories on this topic they've done a side-by-side of AF1 and trumps plane. It looks in2herbs Feb 2020 #1
The new livery is just the Trump livery upside-down. fierywoman Feb 2020 #3
Like many many things... wcmagumba Feb 2020 #2
Maybe this shouldn't piss me off as much as it does... Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #4
This is a non issue for me. What difference does it really make ? virgogal Feb 2020 #6
Raymond Loewy and Jacqueline Kennedy were responsible for the present design Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #11
Pisses me off too, bet the inside is tacky as hell. dewsgirl Feb 2020 #8
I'm sure his Saudi friends will suggest something like this: Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #9
😳 dewsgirl Feb 2020 #12
Trump's Shuttle airline livery FuzzyRabbit Feb 2020 #13
That's butt-ugly, despite being sported on the always-elegant 727 Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #15
I always liked the 727. FuzzyRabbit Feb 2020 #16
trumpery Walleye Feb 2020 #5
As an aside... Newest Reality Feb 2020 #7
What next? Extinguishing the Eternal Flame at JFK's grave site? amb123 Feb 2020 #10
Not as tacky as I thought it might be, but... Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #14
I hope he remembered the fuzzy dice for the cockpit. Buns_of_Fire Feb 2020 #17
Trump, having no depth, is all about the optics July Feb 2020 #18
He won't be near it malaise Feb 2020 #19
Please tell me... WyattKansas Feb 2020 #20

in2herbs

(2,944 posts)
1. In previous stories on this topic they've done a side-by-side of AF1 and trumps plane. It looks
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 04:48 PM
Feb 2020

ugly because it looks like a trump plane.

wcmagumba

(2,881 posts)
2. Like many many things...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 04:49 PM
Feb 2020

it will have to be repainted after the orange blotch is gone....also, tearing down a horrible and useless "wall" and the entire DOJ, and other trashed agencies...

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
4. Maybe this shouldn't piss me off as much as it does...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 04:54 PM
Feb 2020

...but this REALLY pisses me off big time! The existing design, by Raymond Loewy on a commission from First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy (who was never an escort or porn model), has been lauded for DECADES by both art and air enthusiasts alike.

The new design is hideous. Judge for yourselves:

Existing:


GACK! The new design:


Leave Air Force One alone!

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
11. Raymond Loewy and Jacqueline Kennedy were responsible for the present design
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:36 PM
Feb 2020

It should be preserved as great American Art, not painted over with something designed by Donald Trump.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
13. Trump's Shuttle airline livery
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:43 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Wed Feb 12, 2020, 06:27 PM - Edit history (1)



If you continue the blue paint around the bottom of the fuselage you have Trump's "new original" paint scheme for AF1.

Or if you turn Trump's private jetliner over you have his "new original" paint scheme.

Raymond Loewy's colors 60 years after he designed it are very elegant. Trump's are cheap and trite and unimaginative looking by comparison, IMHO.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
15. That's butt-ugly, despite being sported on the always-elegant 727
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:50 PM
Feb 2020

That was likely ex-Eastern Air Lines, who had a pretty cool paint scheme in the 70's and 80's:

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
16. I always liked the 727.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 06:32 PM
Feb 2020

I agree, it is an elegant looking plane.

And it had a stairway at the back, so you could parachute out carrying a bundle of money if you wanted to, like DB Cooper.

Walleye

(30,982 posts)
5. trumpery
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 04:55 PM
Feb 2020

trəmp(ə rē. noun
attractive articles of little value or use.
cheap finery
adjective.
showy but worthless."trumpery jewelry"

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
7. As an aside...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:02 PM
Feb 2020

I do agree that the design is predictably tacky Trump, minus the wannabe chintz.

One more term and we may face a new name for the country emblazoned on a giant, really tacky, (think his casino) sign above the carvings on Mt. Rushmore, reading:

TRUMP AMERICA, or would that be: AMERITRUMP?

His thing is to put his name on something and get residuals from the rights, so...

That may be a lampoon, but I want to be the one who thought of it so I can say that if it happens.

amb123

(1,581 posts)
10. What next? Extinguishing the Eternal Flame at JFK's grave site?
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:33 PM
Feb 2020

Changing the Kennedy colors on AF1 is just like giving the entire Kennedy family the finger.

Wounded Bear

(58,604 posts)
14. Not as tacky as I thought it might be, but...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 05:43 PM
Feb 2020

the big question is WHY?

The only reason to change the color scheme is Trump's ego.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,158 posts)
17. I hope he remembered the fuzzy dice for the cockpit.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:14 PM
Feb 2020

(P.S. And thank you, whoever, for the heart. That was very kind.)

July

(4,750 posts)
18. Trump, having no depth, is all about the optics
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 07:50 PM
Feb 2020

In a few minutes we could all come up with examples, e.g., Space Force’s uniforms, the “look, I signed something” moments in the White House, the stunts pulled this year at the SOTU, and Dimwit’s obsession with ratings (“stay tuned!”). Not to mention every tweak of his wall fiasco, in the vain effort to make us think he’s accomplished something. NAFTA 2.0, also kmown as NAFTA with a new name.

Lardass and his D-list team can’t come up with real accomplishments, just window-dressing.

The damage being done is owing to the handful of clever people around him (not good, but smarter than he is, which is a very low bar) figuring out how to broker his whims into policy changes.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
20. Please tell me...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 10:05 PM
Feb 2020

That when the Democrats regain full control, they will change everything back from what Orange Anus has fouled.

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