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Kablooie

(18,612 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:32 AM Feb 2020

I've been fearing for a long time that waiting for the election to fix things would be too late.

It's feeling more and more like I've been right.
Trump will do absolutely every corrupt and illegal thing his minions can conceive now to prevent a fair and honest election.

With his complete take over of the Justice department and full support of the Republican Senate he won't have to worry about anyone using the law to stop him.
He also has installed sycophantic toadies in all levels of government and every one of them are under his direct totalitarian control.

Yes the states are still somewhat independent but Federal law supersedes State law, (See the Supremacy Clause), which gives Trump great leverage to corrupt the system, even within states, in his own favor.

I hope there will be a flash point soon that creates a massive, historic backlash amongst the population because if we simply go along peacefully waiting for a civil and legal election to restore justice I am certain we will be sorely, and horrifyingly disappointed.

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I've been fearing for a long time that waiting for the election to fix things would be too late. (Original Post) Kablooie Feb 2020 OP
Im curious, what else would you have had us do? herding cats Feb 2020 #1
I'm not saying that Dem actions were wrong. Kablooie Feb 2020 #4
We're definitely in a dark spot of history right now. herding cats Feb 2020 #5
love your sig - musette_sf Feb 2020 #2
Yeah, we're in the scary zone Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #3
I equate it to where a child is stealing money out Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #6

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
1. Im curious, what else would you have had us do?
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:34 AM
Feb 2020

We saw how impeachment ended... what other recourse do you think would have ended better?

Kablooie

(18,612 posts)
4. I'm not saying that Dem actions were wrong.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:00 AM
Feb 2020

But the problem is when one side plays by the rules and laws and the other side completely ignores them and does whatever it wants the criminal side will probably win, particularly when they have the justice department in their pocket.

If Dems step out of line, even a little bit, the justice department will instantly jump on them with force and intensity but will totally ignore and even participate in criminal activities by Trump and his cronies.

The US is in a bad place.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
5. We're definitely in a dark spot of history right now.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:10 AM
Feb 2020

On a personal level, I'm choosing to keep on fighting and using my voice.

You're, obviously, correct about the current DOJ. Our leaders have to be extremely pure and careful, while the GOP can be as corrupt as they like on a national level, without fear of retribution.

What worries me is how many on the other side of the aisle are perfectly fine with this now. Has our level of polarization ever been this high before?

musette_sf

(10,199 posts)
2. love your sig -
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:39 AM
Feb 2020

I've been a political wonk and an avowed Democrat since childhood. In 1968, my 15th birthday was on Election Day, and I threw a Pat Paulsen Victory Party. (I had to distract myself from the *real* election.)

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
6. I equate it to where a child is stealing money out
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:16 AM
Feb 2020

Of his mom's purse every day. The mom does nothing about it. Each day the child steals more and more. Then 2 years later, one day, the mom punishes him. His dad overturns the punishment. Next day, child steals money again.

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