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POLITICS 02/12/2020 07:55 pm ET Updated 3 hours ago
American Bar Association Goes After Trump For Blasting Roger Stone Sentencing On Twitter
The organization put out a pointed statement about public officials who personally attack judges or prosecutors after the president did just that.
By Sanjana Karanth
The American Bar Association indirectly denounced President Donald Trump on Wednesday for publicly criticizing the sentencing recommendation for his friend Roger Stone as well as the judge presiding over Stones case.
The message from the organization of lawyers follows Trumps tweet early Tuesday morning calling the seven- to nine-year sentencing recommendation for Stone a miscarriage of justice. The Trump adviser had been convicted of witness tampering and lying to Congress.
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democrank
(11,092 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,846 posts)Get Barr investigated and disbarred.
Ms. Toad
(34,055 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,846 posts)They can't revoke or suspend his license but, if he is a member, they can remove him from membership, and file a complaint/ make a referral to the applicable bar.
The ABA is not helpless in this matter. If the ABA wants to stand for the rule of law, it should take whatever steps it can.
Ms. Toad
(34,055 posts)and targeting specific people. It does the former, it does not do the latter.
Membership in the ABA is open to anyone willing to pay the membership fee.
Sanity Claws
(21,846 posts)However, I don't see the difference when the specific person involved is the AG violating law at the highest level and in effect violating principles of law.
The ABA is an advocacy as well as a membership group. It should be taking a stand against Barr and show it publicly.
Ms. Toad
(34,055 posts)One is advocating for "judicial independence and the sound exercise of prosecutorial discretion." The other is passing judgment on a person.
They did ot even do that with Trump - their statement was limited to describing unacceptable circumstances, not passing judgment on Trump's action: "Public officials who personally attack judges or prosecutors can create a perception that the system is serving a political or other purpose rather than the fair administration of justice.
sdfernando
(4,929 posts)For the purposes of this, lets say I was a lawyer and joined the ABA just after passing the BAR...then I murdered by parents to inherit their money, was caught and convicted. I'm still licensed lawyer but I would think & hope that a prestigious organization like the ABA would revoke my membership.
Ms. Toad
(34,055 posts)Membership in the ABA is open to everyone through different membership categories. You may join as a U.S. licensed lawyer, a non-U.S. licensed lawyer, law student (at an ABA-accredited law school), student (a post-secondary educationlevel student) or a nonlawyer (includes paralegals, law librarians, economists and others interested in the ABA).
So even if Barr gets disbarred (as he likley would be if he murdered his parents), he is still free to retain his membership as a non-lawyer . . . interested in the ABA.
DENVERPOPS
(8,802 posts)Trump doesn't even have a legal degree or bar certification.
Why? aren't they going after Barr, guiliani, and a hundred other bar certified attorneys in the administration and the Senate.
Of course they can just go register in another state, but that takes time and detracts from their efforts. If they continue to advise Trump, they can be prosecuted for practicing with out a license I would suspect.
We need an un-relenting tsunami of shit coming at them from every direction to stifle their agenda.........
The Democratic Party has NO leader, and NO agenda, and NO organization..........
Look no further than the Dem's primary election disarray....it's laughable.........
Someone commented that if things continue like they are, we won't have a candidate at this rate until September.....
While the dems are wandering down the jungle path swatting at mosquitoes, they are oblivious to the herd of charging elephants...
(no pun intended, but "perfectly" right on target)
malaise
(268,845 posts)Rec
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Really. I was beginning to feel some real despair at the thought that the Judicial System was caving to Barr. He and Trump and Moscow Mitch arent concerned if principled prosecutors quit in protest. That just makes it easier for them since they have no intention of stopping their takeover.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,309 posts)Oh gee, "a perception that the system is serving a political or other purpose". It's not just a perception; the system is IN FACT serving a political or other purpose! Has anybody at the ABA seen any news in the last 3 years?