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Demovictory9

(32,448 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 02:32 AM Feb 2020

Trump Calls For End To Student Loan Forgiveness Program

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2020/02/11/trump-student-loans-forgiveness/?fbclid=IwAR0vnUVlCuMEdR_qVl6KDP-0j-asQaI2o2AF_obDcndL0LDta2nGrXH-kbE&fbclid=IwAR0fCHwQwf225n0_ch1vyG4ZKEIdWKjEdQppkyOBAKIxxT_saaCgMZGQAuQ&utm_campaign=clevelanddotcom_sf&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social#2208f18e6b3d

End Student Loan Forgiveness

Trump’s new annual budget calls for several changes to student loans, which are part of a $5.6 billion cut in funding to the U.S. Education Department. As in previous years, Trump repeated his call to end public service loan forgiveness. Under Trump's proposed budget, if passed by Congress, the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program would be eliminated.

The Public Service Loan Forgiveness program is a federal program created in 2007 by President George W. Bush that forgives federal student loans for borrowers who are employed full-time (more than 30 hours per week) in an eligible federal, state or local public service job or 501(c)(3) nonprofit job who make 120 eligible on-time payments over ten years.

Why Cancel Public Service Student Loan Forgiveness?

The president and Education Secretary Betsy DeVos have stated that they want to balance the needs of both student loan borrowers and federal taxpayers. Eliminating this program, they argue, would save the federal government money from not having to forgive potentially billions of dollars of federal student loans. Others believe that the program is vital to attract and retain individuals to enter public service and non-profit jobs, many of which pay lower salaries than private sector roles. Supporters of the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program believe that ending it could deter student loan borrowers from entering public service jobs, and could adversely impact public servants, including members of the U.S. Armed Forces, police officers, firefighters, first responders, prosecutors, public defenders and others. Importantly, the proposal would impact future borrowers, not existing borrowers who already work in public service and are currently paying off student loans.
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Trump Calls For End To Student Loan Forgiveness Program (Original Post) Demovictory9 Feb 2020 OP
And I call for the end of the Trump Forgiveness Program. dchill Feb 2020 #1
Here here. n/t Beartracks Feb 2020 #2
+1000! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2020 #13
me too! Demovictory9 Feb 2020 #24
I Call For The End Of Trump Period DanieRains Feb 2020 #3
Yup...my hate fire has received more fuel from this...(n/t) Moostache Feb 2020 #6
Miserable, sadistic motherfucker. smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #4
DeVos is one of the worst...which is clearly why she is STILL around this long... (n/t) Moostache Feb 2020 #7
They are monsters and atm we can do nothing, or damn near nothing Celerity Feb 2020 #14
"We Republicans think smart educated people should be dirt poor" struggle4progress Feb 2020 #5
Guess he figures that as bankruptcy was good for him......... flor-de-jasmim Feb 2020 #8
Vote Blue. 33taw Feb 2020 #9
If it levels the playing field, Republicans HATE it. King_Klonopin Feb 2020 #10
Rotten awful Mersky Feb 2020 #11
Were student loans ever dischargeable in bankruptcy? Nature Man Feb 2020 #12
The Bankruptcy Act changed that obamanut2012 Feb 2020 #15
They were at one time. Now it is extraordinarily hard. Celerity Feb 2020 #16
Again this is causing more young people to realize trump is hurting them duforsure Feb 2020 #17
if the mother-fucker gave a shit about taxpayers he'd golf at camp david. pansypoo53219 Feb 2020 #18
How much of Trump debt has been "forgiven" through bankruptcies? JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2020 #19
He's the "King of Debt" buhleeveme underpants Feb 2020 #20
Excellent point. I would love to see the exact dollar count for how much debt Tanuki Feb 2020 #22
At the same time he cuts federal pay rises below inflation due to his "national emergency" muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #21
...and this is a G W Bush program, PCIntern Feb 2020 #23
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
4. Miserable, sadistic motherfucker.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 04:05 AM
Feb 2020

I hate him so much. Betsy DeVos is behind this. That woman has got to go. I despise her.

Celerity

(43,314 posts)
14. They are monsters and atm we can do nothing, or damn near nothing
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:57 AM
Feb 2020

to stop this. He simply MUST be voted out.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
10. If it levels the playing field, Republicans HATE it.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 05:25 AM
Feb 2020

The "Born on third base" analogy is obvious to anyone,
except Trump himself. Slimeball.

Celerity

(43,314 posts)
16. They were at one time. Now it is extraordinarily hard.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:14 AM
Feb 2020

Here is a very rare exception

This Man Got $221,000 Of Student Loans Discharged In Bankruptcy

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2020/01/10/student-loans-bankruptcy/

Here is some background on why they are so hard to discharge thanks to the 2005 Bankruptcy Bill aka The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/02/joe-biden-student-loan-debt-2005-act-2020

https://www.gq.com/story/joe-biden-bankruptcy-bill/amp

https://www.thebalance.com/bankruptcy-abuse-prevention-and-consumer-protection-act-3305555


duforsure

(11,885 posts)
17. Again this is causing more young people to realize trump is hurting them
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:15 AM
Feb 2020

And are running from him now with many others that see he's again cutting Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security hurting older people. trumps economic claims are propaganda , and they're propping up the market with our money while claiming its good, like W Bush claimed the economy was good before it crashed knowing it wasn't. Instead of helping the students , he passed a windfall tax scam bill which he bragged was giving the wealthy huge tax refunds yearly now we pay for. He could care less about any students.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
19. How much of Trump debt has been "forgiven" through bankruptcies?
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 06:44 AM
Feb 2020

And that's just the bank loans.

How much of Trump's debts to workers, contractors, etc has he just ignored?

He's the picture of debt.

underpants

(182,769 posts)
20. He's the "King of Debt" buhleeveme
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:28 AM
Feb 2020

Every article I've read about him always includes how incredibly low his debt numbers were. Yes he declared bankruptcy and yes lenders took control of 95% of his assets at times but when he really really needed money (post 1990 especially) *poof* suddenly he had it somehow.

He eats fast food because he fears being poisoned.

Hmmmm who has lots of cash and also have been known to still use poison in this day and age?

Maybe these two things don't have anything to do it's one another. I'm simply asking the question.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
22. Excellent point. I would love to see the exact dollar count for how much debt
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:51 AM
Feb 2020

he has had forgiven in his multiple bankruptcies. I would-also like to see how much of his fair share of taxes he has been able to avoid paying by writing off bad real estate investments and shady deductions of all kinds.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
21. At the same time he cuts federal pay rises below inflation due to his "national emergency"
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:36 AM
Feb 2020
If you lived in a bubble where Twitter Trump was your sole news source, you’d be pretty fired up, which makes it odd that on Monday the very same Trump White House said it intends to slash a scheduled pay raise for civilian federal employees. Cutting the 2.5 percent raise set for 2021 to 1 percent for millions of federal workers seems a bit austere in the face of such self-proclaimed boom times. Even more absurdly, Trump is justifying ordering the cut on the grounds that the country is in the midst of a “national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare,” which the White House says authorizes the president to “implement alternative plans for pay adjustments.”

So which is it? The best economy in the history of economies or a national economic emergency? Either way, somebody’s lying.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/trump-cuts-scheduled-federal-pay-raise-serious-economic-conditions.html

Trump manages to lie both ways. It's neither the best economy ever, nor a national economic emergency that needs severe actions to cut people's real pay. The closest thing to "emergency conditions" were created by Trump's tax cuts for the rich; so he wants both pay in the public sector to get worse, and to stop the loan program that could persuade well-qualified people to go into public service anyway.

That way, he gets people who are more desperate, and will do what thy're told by ideologues in charge who are effectively paid by thinktanks to whom they will return, after a few years of "suffering for the public good" with federal pay.

PCIntern

(25,532 posts)
23. ...and this is a G W Bush program,
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 08:28 AM
Feb 2020

You know: that Commie-leftist giveaway-to-the-poor Guy.

Jesus. Next he’s gonna re-segregate baseball.

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