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We were having some work done in our home yesterday by a couple of young men. Shortly after they arrived I heard my husband say please leave my home and when you come back in leave your hat outside. I'm like WTH, so I went into the kitchen to discover one of them was wearing a Trump 2020 hat. The guy continued to do his thing all the while my husband was getting more pissed. So I asked my husband to leave the room and then turned my attention to the crew. I explained to them that the hat was inflammatory to anyone paying attention and that they should remain apolitical when working in people's homes.
Eventually he left the house and a bit later he returned, without the hat. During his absence the other young man told me that no one had ever asked him to remove his hat before and I told him that it was long over due.
Anyway, it felt good speaking out and maybe after this he won't wear that hat into someone else's home. I can dream can't I?
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)DeeDeeNY
(3,354 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)samnsara
(17,616 posts)....maybe you and your husband helped enlighten him a bit. Good for you!
I had contractors come to my house once and I took down all my political signs..out of respect for them ( and my own safety!)
Farmer-Rick
(10,154 posts)There are idiots around here who fly the Southern swastika. My uncle asked a woman, who he went to church with, to take off her car bumper sticker with the flag on it. When she asked why he explained how it was seen as a symbol of hatred and abuse. Several people had gathered to hear this discussion. My uncle was a very religious man and people around here seem to find that a good quality, so they listened to him.
After he explained how it represented slavery and hatred, she acted as if she didn't know. And several people around her also expressed ignorance. They claimed no one ever objected before.
I just don't believe it. I can't believe otherwise aware people didn't know the flag was seen as pro slavery and abuse. I don't believe people who wear the hat were not confronted about it; nor couldn't understand what it represents.
They just pretend to be unaware so as to avoid an argument which Southerners tend to do. They hate saying no and don't want to say it so pretend they don't know.
Following the Sunday when my uncle had his talk with the woman, she did not have the bumber sticker anymore. So, though I believe she knew what the flag represented, she didn't want my uncle to think badly of her.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Most likely, they grew up in a home that taught them that they were better, smarter, etc than those "others." Their friends, school chums, and neighbors told jokes about the "others," called them racist names. And they laughed along. They never socialized with the "others" to discover their kindness and goodness.
But they are cowards when confronted by a group of decent people, who point out their immorality and ignorance of racism.
I grew up in Dallas and went to segregated schools until I got to college. Afterwards I lived in the multicultural society of California.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Back in 2007 when we were building a house, one of the subcontractors was playing Rush Limbaugh loudly. I asked him nicely to shut it off, because that kind of talk was not allowed on my property. He did - but later I wish I had just thrown him off the job. That idiot caused a four month delay in the completion because of his numerous mistakes - nailing a water pipe and causing a leak that ruined the newly finished master bedroom floor was only one of them.
When I heard Limbaugh blasting his hate speed I should have realize the guy playing it was a moron.
Croney
(4,657 posts)KewlKat
(5,624 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)They think we're the ones who should hide.
Croney
(4,657 posts)I'm in Mass. and haven't seen those horrible hats yet but I'm sure they're around. I'd never let one in my house either. It's like letting in a swastika.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)It was the blue one, with the name across the top with the 2020. Not a red hat.
Croney
(4,657 posts)👍
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)Before she even had her coat off I asked if she was a Repub. I have the habit of yelling at the TV cable news in the background and I didn't want to offend her with my profanity.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)sent her away? Just curious...
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)profanities when appropriate (it's my house and I would not change it for a Repub, damn it!). If someone doesn't like it , tough. They have free will to leave and I did warn them after all.
catbyte
(34,373 posts)and made an appointment for the next day. I went out to buy a few groceries and I happened to pull up behind one of their service trucks. Lo and behold, there was a TRUMP/PENCE sticker on the back of their truck. I called to cancel when I got to the grocery store parking lot and I told them why. I know they couldn't care less, but I felt better. I also went on Yelp to give folks a head's up about the company's politics, in case others care about such things as I do.
Joinfortmill
(14,416 posts)llmart
(15,536 posts)But I've never had it happen that either the workers/owners or their vehicles have anything relating to Trump on it. However, I always have my speech rehearsed if I see any of them pull up with a sticker or flag or those hideous red hats. As far as I'm concerned, there are way too many other companies or men out there who I can give my business to. They may not advertise that they support the hatred and maybe I would never know, but if they're going to be open about their support then they do not get my business.
I actually don't even think I'd ask them to remove the hat. I would just say, "I've rethought using your services because of your support for hatred, so thank you very much but no thanks. I'll find someone else." I would let the business owner know also. I would think after awhile a business owner who lost a job or two, especially if it's a small business, would inform their workers to not wear these hats.
Dukkha
(7,341 posts)aww, that's nice that you hire special needs people to assist with the work
Raftergirl
(1,285 posts)who he showed up with TRUMP written in huge letters on the bag of his riding mower.
I told him I didnt want anyone thinking I supported Lumpy Trumpy.
Grokenstein
(5,722 posts)"Get the hell out."
"Waaaaaa, unfair! I'm bein' persecuted!"
haele
(12,647 posts)They used their grandfather's Postal pension to snap up apartment complexes cheap during the S&L crisis in the late 80's and have been using them as a personal ATM since then, cheating on taxes and bitching about how the Government interferes with their ability to be slumlords ever since.
So our granddaughter was having a birthday party in a really nice public park with most of her classmates attending - a class in which there are a lot of green-card families -engineers, doctor, other professionals.
Laz and I ended up planning it as everyone else in the family was "too busy" to plan the party she wanted in a timely manner, and the other grandfather was in charge of getting the pizzas. Anyway, when he showed up before the party, he was wearing his MAGA hat.
I had to take him aside and remind him that even though it's obvious he's proud of his political position, this was an 8 year old's birthday party, not a grown-up event. Many of the families that were coming to the party (about 15) were not born in the US and that hat could make them uncomfortable enough to leave and possibly ruin her friendship with a classmate, so "please wear a politically neutral hat".
He grudgingly agreed, then complained to his parents when they came by. His mother had a Women for Trump button on her purse, and tried to ensure it was clearly visible by, her spot at the main picnic table, Guess where coolers, boxes, and birthday presents kept being placed shoving or hiding her purse to a "safer" spot under the table where it could not be noticed if she wasn't sitting there?
Only two other parents noticed the situation thank goodness, and seemed to appreciate that Laz and I were attempting to keep the party as non-political as possible.
That side of the family is too hypocritically chicken-shit to confront us. They knew what they were doing, and it's still infuriating that they would think it was okay to screw with the birthday party of a grandchild who still adores them.
Laz and I are grown-up enough not to play petty, inappropriate politics with children. Apparently, that side of the family aren't.
Haele
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)Skittles
(153,149 posts)get the red hat that says THIS HIDES MY LOBOTOMY SCAR.....wear it around MAGAts
FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)KewlKat
(5,624 posts)Never hurts to be prepared!
thanks
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Saw a guy, fairly overweight and nerdy walking down the street with a MAGA 2020 hat, a red gadsden flag shirt I think, and a backpack covered in Trump pins.
The audacity to wear that and in DC of all places where Trump is absolutely despised by 95% of the population.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)on its vehicles or business property. If asked, I will explain why that is. I also do not patronize businesses that have Fox News playing their customer waiting area, and tell them why I'm going elsewhere.
While it is their perfect right to do as they choose, it is also my right to patronize someone else. Any smart business person knows that politics and religion do not belong as a prominent part of their business. It's the fastest possible way to alienate a good portion of your potential customers.
And I don't want to do business with stupid people. So, such businesses are off my list when it comes to my patronage.