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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't believe for a minute this Barr v Trump act.
Maybe I am wrong but to me it is all kabuki theater. This is all one big act.
Barr, "I can't do my job with the President's interference."
Please, Bill your job is to run interference for President Trump.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)CincyDem
(6,355 posts)Javaman
(62,521 posts)walkingman
(7,609 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)thinkingagain
(906 posts)If it was for real Barr. Will be out of there shortly
Just another guy trump hardly knows, another coffee boy.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)they are just "proving" that the atty gen is "independent" to whatever rubes believe the bs.
ConorDem
(14 posts)Barr is Trump's lapdog.
"It's total bullshit." Yup, Barr stopped the Mueller investigation and has hidden the report
from the American people but now he is upset by Trump's interference?
42bambi
(1,753 posts)it's a win-win because they're hoping we're not paying attention!
madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)+1,000,000,000
They think everyone is stupid.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)H2O Man
(73,537 posts)Exactly right. It's bullshit.
LuvLoogie
(6,999 posts)to keep them in their flogged stupor.
Botany
(70,501 posts)It is all scripted bull shit.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)It's only Kabuki theater when Barr puts on the same make-up. Even inside those Shar Pei wrinkles and folds.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)They make me absolutely sick.
dalton99a
(81,472 posts)LaMouffette
(2,030 posts)They're just "play fighting," just like Trump does with Putin when he takes some feeble action against Russia, or tries to talk tough about Putin. I'm sure they have a tacit agreement that Trump can occasionally take a swipe at Putin to fool Trump's followers into believing Trump is a strong leader who is tough on Russia.
I wouldn't be surprised if they had some code hand gesture that Trump uses to signal Putin, "Just foolin'! Don't get mad!" whenever he appears to lay down the law on Russia.
Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)But prima donna Trump does not have the ability to play along. He's a moron surrounded by morons and will not heed any practical advice.
ToxMarz
(2,166 posts)They are completely contrived and scripted. That's trump's thing.
Liberal In Texas
(13,548 posts)May even have been his idea. Scripting the "reality show."
Botany
(70,501 posts)Mike and Frank are notorious negotiators on the show. Its always depicted that, when they meet the people who own the items they want, they always negotiate a fair price down from a set value that the person has in mind. Thats not always whats happening when the cameras arent rolling, however
It turns out that its a common practice for the crew to set a price along with the guests before Mike or Frank show up. Once they do, the hosts of the program try to negotiate to that set price once the filming has started, that is. In other words, theres not much of a real negotiation happening at all, at least as far as the hosts are concerned.
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)real.
How do such stupid people get these jobs?
ashredux
(2,605 posts)He is good at lying, but there is a small hesitation before the big lie. There was no agreement with the prosecutors on changing the guidelines. Watch...he hesitates slightly and the tone and volume soften. That is his Tell....
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)That Barr intervened right after Trump sent his tweet.
It was a coincidence that Barr rebuked the President right after the story exploded.
It was a coincidence that the Prez broke all precedent by saying he was OK with Barrs statement.
It was a coincidence my ass.
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)Gibbs' rules
kentuck
(111,089 posts)Not an easy task with Trump.
Lokee11
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(26,620 posts)marieo1
(1,402 posts)I don't trust anyone associated with DJT and that includes Barr. They are all a bunch of liars and crooks. There is some ulterior motive behind Barr's comments - it may take a while to figure out what the motive is but I guarantee you, We, the American public will find out. I'm sure DJT put Barr up to it. I'm sure Barr doesn't have enough guts to stand up to DJT.
Rogerpatterson
(17 posts)He has to appear before the house to answer for some of the things he has done and said lately. This is preparation for saying he's not Trump's fixer. The house won't buy it though.
Nitram
(22,794 posts)in legal and political danger.
ashredux
(2,605 posts)He is good at lying, but there is a small hesitation before the big lie. There was no agreement with the prosecutors on changing the guidelines. Watch...he hesitates slightly and the tone and volume soften. That is his Tell....
Jade Fox
(10,030 posts)Merlot
(9,696 posts)kiri
(794 posts)This is all an orchestrated charade. NPR says that Barr discussed this ploy with trump, so this all calculated.
Barr has already forfeited his reputation in history. He is just pretending to trying to preserve any sense of integrity. He still adheres to Trump as king.
And he as big a liar as trump.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)think he can con us with his lamented excuses that contradicts his previous statements and actions. The man is a menace to everything this country holds dear. And yes, his current attempt to explain away further converting the DOJ to serve one person is nothing but another flimsy act.
Nasruddin
(752 posts)The staging seems obvious, but is there any precedent for Donald Trump play acting like that?
I can think of some other possibilities -
It's a momentary slip up by Barr. Let's see if he says something like that again
Mr Trump is not really aware of what happened yet
Barr is really in charge, and is keeping Mr Trump on ice
the latter seems as implausible as Donald Trump play acting, but not any less implausible given Mr Trump's decline.
ooky
(8,922 posts)Just enough to give him "deniable plausibility". The best he could do to clean up this turd. But everybody knows that the idea that he didn't get involved in reducing Stone's sentencing guideline for Trump is utter bullshit.
berksdem
(595 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)These criminals are actors too.
Botany
(70,501 posts)... election and both Trump & Barr know that and so they will do everything in their powers
both legal and illegally to protect him and keep him out of prison.
PufPuf23
(8,773 posts)Otherwise Barr would have to resign as AG and work with Congress on a new impeachment in a sane World.
Agree that Barr is doing nothing but running interference for Trump, to conclude otherwise is naïve.
The Barr-Trump relationship is in our faces corruption.
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)Its got to be Extremely Frustrating, to the point it would be impossible without a complicit senate majority, to be trying to quietly cover up the presidents crimes and misdeeds when he is constantly publicly tweeting about them...
matt819
(10,749 posts)Pure theater.
Blue Owl
(50,356 posts)n/t
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Crap, and plenty more we don't know about, for IQ45.
Nitram
(22,794 posts)Barr is a fool for backing Trump, and he will pay for it.
Texin
(2,596 posts)Basically, Barr is Twitter-grumbling because he's trying to pretend that tRump is be being *unhelpful* by megaphoning what Barr's up to and Barr just wants to maintain some level of plausible deniability about it. He's pretending that he's not doing exactly what tRump wants, he just doesn't want tRump to openly expose him. After all, he doesn't need tRump to tell him what to do. He knows what tRump wants. He's been at this back when he cut his teeth as the AG back during Iran Contra when the Reagan-BushI folks needed a kangaroo hearing, and he proved himself a willing lackey in facilitating that coverup more than thirty years ago! He's got good practice. He's been successful at it and he sure doesn't need someone with the intellect of a brain-addled gnat telling him how to do his job on Twitter, FFS. Barr's just sayin' to tRump's Twitter handler to cool it, "Just don't embarrass me publicly for being such a willing and able law-breaker. I mean, Boss, I do need to be able to dine at Sans Souci without having the waitstaff dump platters on my head and have my prime fillet spat on by the food handlers."
gulliver
(13,180 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)McTurtle siding with asshole Barr.
If it wasn't so serious, I would be laughing right now.
LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)instead of in public.
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olegramps
(8,200 posts)Their conspiracy to lessen the charges was exposed by Trump's stupid disclosures. So they had to wipe out the fact that Barr was only doing his bootlicking duty at Trump's demands and make it appear that he was responsibly acting in his capacity as Attorney General and was not the president's bought and paid for flunky. Barr is a fascist henchman with no alliance to the nation and the constitution.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)No insult to obedient puppies though
Nitram
(22,794 posts)He tweets from the hip. Barr is trying his best to help his Master, who insists on undermining everyone who helps him. Every single person who has tried to support Trump unconditionally has been thrown under the bus. Barr is no exception. This is a pattern, folks. Trump can't help it. He always undermines his strongest supporters and dumps them in the end.
eppur_se_muova
(36,261 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunraku
Of course, the puppeteers are fully visible, but the audience accepts the idea that they are not supposed to be there, and so does not notice whatever manipulations they must go through to get the puppets to act, even startling in surprising at the sudden actions of the puppets.
45's WH is like a bunraku performance in which a bloated orange puppeteer, hood and robe cast aside and red tie hanging to his knees, keeps shouting "YOU CAN'T SEE US!! YOU CAN'T SEE US!!!!" while making weird hand gestures.
45 is trying to play a part which requires subtlety, a concept totally beyond his understanding, and of course failing bigly.