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Covid-19 quite likely to spread in US. Will Trump try to use it to cancel election? (Original Post) bobbieinok Feb 2020 OP
It's hard to know what will happen. Even if a lot of people get it, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #1
Fortunately in PA this year I can vote by mail if needed. apcalc Feb 2020 #3
Mortality rate is about 2 to 3% right now. applegrove Feb 2020 #9
I'd be suspicious of that claim. Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #2
Trump cannot Turbineguy Feb 2020 #6
Not true. You might want to review the Patriot Act. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2020 #11
Please cite the specific provision in the Patriot Act Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #14
There are none. dware Feb 2020 #17
I know. That's why I asked for a cite. Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #18
+100. nt dware Feb 2020 #19
no. onenote Feb 2020 #4
I imagine he will use it to dewsgirl Feb 2020 #5
Trump would use a fallen tree limb to cancel the election. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2020 #7
You just got a heart from me, for your amazing and right-on post! Thank you! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2020 #12
Won't go far, and way too early to estimate the impact of C.virus yet, IMHO. In any event, ... SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #8
Here's the thing about Trump... Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #10
I don't think he will cancel the election because of it Runningdawg Feb 2020 #13
What a CT former9thward Feb 2020 #20
This is QAnon-like silliness that doesn't belong in the DU Tarc Feb 2020 #15
I doubt that customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #16
Who is the "noted scientist"? former9thward Feb 2020 #21

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
1. It's hard to know what will happen. Even if a lot of people get it,
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:13 PM
Feb 2020

we don't know how sick they will get. What I worry about is that His Lardship has cut quite a bit from the CDC, so if the epidemic does get bad it might not be handled very well.

Ms. Toad

(34,059 posts)
2. I'd be suspicious of that claim.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:15 PM
Feb 2020

Especially by an unnamed "noted scientist." Even the 1918 influenza only affected 20-25%of the population.

Trump can't cancel the election. Elections are run by the states.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
11. Not true. You might want to review the Patriot Act.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:53 PM
Feb 2020

Trump has made minor incidents into "national emergencies". My word of warning is to NEVER believe that Trump is bound by law, tradition, norm, or a two scoop limit of ice cream. He will do anything to cover his ass.

The Dem winner in the general will have the proven ability to cut Trump down to size, to insult and emasculate him and to give his legion of rah-rahs the image of an effeminate, doughy, whiney, tyrannical cry baby. Trumpers want their Superman, so Trump spends hours a day in the make-up chair to deliver to them a bill of goods.

The Dems want disillusioned Trumpers who can no longer believe in their fantasy because Trump is completely exposed as a fake, a liar, and a fraud who behaves as if a strategy will emerge after he recklessly shakes things up.

Facts won't work, nor can Trump be treated with the dignity that comes with the office. The Dem's attack must be emotional and metaphorical. It can be done, and once it's done, Trump's house of cards will crumble, and fast.

But that's all a best case scenario, because there's this law passed called the Patriot Act. Take a look.

dware

(12,355 posts)
17. There are none.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 10:34 PM
Feb 2020

I'm getting sick and tired of these doomsday scenarios, this comes up every time there's an election since Clinton, by both sides.

You are absolutely correct, the Mango Menace cannot cancel the elections, there is no provision in the Patriot Act for such a thing.

Ms. Toad

(34,059 posts)
18. I know. That's why I asked for a cite.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 10:52 PM
Feb 2020

The Patriot Act is a horrific piece of legislature - and it does give Trump far more power than he ought to have. But cancelling the election is not one of those powers.

I get so sick of us sounding like the chicken little Republicans (especially since we've been the target of this kind of nonsense from them - and properly ridiculed them for it).

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
7. Trump would use a fallen tree limb to cancel the election.
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:25 PM
Feb 2020

He can't wait to find the perfect excuse when it's late summer and he's getting his ass kicked.

The day of the acquittal was the day when the Trump movement hit its peak. Because of his natural ability to fuck everything up, he'll go way over his skis, as they say, believing that the nation has given him permission to be an asshole. Eventually, the League of Cowards (aka Republican Party) will lose their ability to shield their complicity and will have to behave "awoke." This will only because the nation will turn its eyes to THEM, and wonder, out loud, when they'll snap out of it. But that won't be until summer, IMO, because 1. Trump will continue to be an asshole in whole new ways, and 2. They'll start getting fidgety when they see, from out of the mist, the long, swift arms of the Grim Reaper of Election Defeat heading straight for them and picking up speed, its scythe's long, curved blade ripping the wind like the scream of a hurricane.

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
8. Won't go far, and way too early to estimate the impact of C.virus yet, IMHO. In any event, ...
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:29 PM
Feb 2020

don't want period anything...but every yr alone in America, there are quite a few deaths from the flu...

results in “about 250,000 to 500,000 yearly deaths” worldwide, Wikipedia tells us. “The typical estimate is 36,000 [deaths] a year in the United States,” reports NBC, citing the Centers for Disease Control.

...

They canceled elections for the above yet either. Elections will go on, and also (I think someone said it already) the states are the ones regulating this issue of elections...

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
10. Here's the thing about Trump...
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 07:36 PM
Feb 2020

The sky's the limit. Always expect the craziest extreme actions from him.

Whether he'll be able to use this as an excuse is a different matter, depending on what the virus actually does. It's hard to imagine this turning into a 1918-esque flu that kills millions worldwide. But, it's early.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
13. I don't think he will cancel the election because of it
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 09:06 PM
Feb 2020

But he most certainly would use it to his advantage, paying people who have it to spread it through DNC chapters, GOTV locations, election boards and candidate headquarters nationwide.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
16. I doubt that
Fri Feb 14, 2020, 10:30 PM
Feb 2020

but it may well depress turnout, and especially caucusing for those in the states where that is the way that delegates are chosen.

We have enough food stored to weather out a couple of months of hunkering down if need be.

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