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BREAKING: 1100+ @TheJusticeDept alumni join together to declare:
-DOJ must be free from @realDonaldTrump political interference.
- AG Barr has failed to uphold his oath of office.
-We stand with DOJ employees committed to protecting equal justice.
https://tinyurl.com/v9moecu
DOJ Alumni Statement on the Events Surrounding the Sentencing of Roger Stone
We, the undersigned, are alumni of the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) who have collectively served both Republican and
7:19 AM - Feb 16, 2020
Former Justice Dept. Lawyers Press for Barr to Step Down
More than 1,100 former prosecutors and officials who served in Republican and Democratic administrations signed an open letter condemning the president and the attorney general over the Stone case.
By Katie Benner
Feb. 16, 2020
Updated 8:06 a.m. ET
WASHINGTON More than 1,100 former federal prosecutors and Justice Department officials called on Attorney General William P. Barr on Sunday to step down after he intervened last week to lower the Justice Departments sentencing recommendation for President Trumps longtime friend Roger J. Stone Jr.
They also urged current government employees to report any signs of unethical behavior at the Justice Department to the agencys inspector general and to Congress.
Each of us strongly condemns President Trumps and Attorney General Barrs interference in the fair administration of justice, the former Justice Department lawyers, who came from across the political spectrum, wrote in an open letter on Sunday. Those actions, they said, require Mr. Barr to resign.
The sharp denunciation of Mr. Barr underlined the extent of the fallout over the case of Mr. Stone, capping a week that strained the attorney generals relationship with his rank and file, and with the president himself.
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The Statement:
Feb 16
We, the undersigned, are alumni of the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) who have collectively served both Republican and Democratic administrations. Each of us strongly condemns President Trumps and Attorney General Barrs interference in the fair administration of justice.
As former DOJ officials, we each proudly took an oath to support and defend our Constitution and faithfully execute the duties of our offices. The very first of these duties is to apply the law equally to all Americans. This obligation flows directly from the Constitution, and it is embedded in countless rules and laws governing the conduct of DOJ lawyers. The Justice Manual the DOJs rulebook for its lawyers states that the rule of law depends on the evenhanded administration of justice; that the Departments legal decisions must be impartial and insulated from political influence; and that the Departments prosecutorial powers, in particular, must be exercised free from partisan consideration.
All DOJ lawyers are well-versed in these rules, regulations, and constitutional commands. They stand for the proposition that political interference in the conduct of a criminal prosecution is anathema to the Departments core mission and to its sacred obligation to ensure equal justice under the law.
And yet, President Trump and Attorney General Barr have openly and repeatedly flouted this fundamental principle, most recently in connection with the sentencing of President Trumps close associate, Roger Stone, who was convicted of serious crimes. The Department has a long-standing practice in which political appointees set broad policies that line prosecutors apply to individual cases. That practice exists to animate the constitutional principles regarding the even-handed application of the law. Although there are times when political leadership appropriately weighs in on individual prosecutions, it is unheard of for the Departments top leaders to overrule line prosecutors, who are following established policies, in order to give preferential treatment to a close associate of the President, as Attorney General Barr did in the Stone case. It is even more outrageous for the Attorney General to intervene as he did here after the President publicly condemned the sentencing recommendation that line prosecutors had already filed in court.
Such behavior is a grave threat to the fair administration of justice. In this nation, we are all equal before the law. A person should not be given special treatment in a criminal prosecution because they are a close political ally of the President. Governments that use the enormous power of law enforcement to punish their enemies and reward their allies are not constitutional republics; they are autocracies.
We welcome Attorney General Barrs belated acknowledgment that the DOJs law enforcement decisions must be independent of politics; that it is wrong for the President to interfere in specific enforcement matters, either to punish his opponents or to help his friends; and that the Presidents public comments on DOJ matters have gravely damaged the Departments credibility. But Mr. Barrs actions in doing the Presidents personal bidding unfortunately speak louder than his words. Those actions, and the damage they have done to the Department of Justices reputation for integrity and the rule of law, require Mr. Barr to resign. But because we have little expectation he will do so, it falls to the Departments career officials to take appropriate action to uphold their oaths of office and defend nonpartisan, apolitical justice.
For these reasons, we support and commend the four career prosecutors who upheld their oaths and stood up for the Departments independence by withdrawing from the Stone case and/or resigning from the Department. Our simple message to them is that we and millions of other Americans stand with them. And we call on every DOJ employee to follow their heroic example and be prepared to report future abuses to the Inspector General, the Office of Professional Responsibility, and Congress; to refuse to carry out directives that are inconsistent with their oaths of office; to withdraw from cases that involve such directives or other misconduct; and, if necessary, to resign and report publicly in a manner consistent with professional ethics to the American people the reasons for their resignation. We likewise call on the other branches of government to protect from retaliation those employees who uphold their oaths in the face of unlawful directives. The rule of law and the survival of our Republic demand nothing less.
If you are a former DOJ employee and would like to add your name below, click here. Protect Democracy will update this list daily with new signatories.
WOW! Other "alumni joint statements" usually have a few hundred signatories. 1100+ is remarkable, and WARRANTED. There's also a mechanism on the medium.com page to allow other fmr DoJ exployees to submit their names for inclusion, so their numbers will swell.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Active DOJ employees need to do the same and stand together. There should be a loud cry from EVERYWHERE for behind-bars-barr to immediately resign as AG.
Dennis Donovan
(31,059 posts)Whether it's whistleblowing or resignations (I prefer the former), 1100+ former DoJ have their backs.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)That it is not fair to ask career Professionals to resign and not expect Republicans in Congress to do the same. They created these monsters.
Dennis Donovan
(31,059 posts)Fortunately, the only one being asked to resign in the letter is Barr.
Ms. Toad
(38,638 posts)carrying out unethical directives:
John Fante
(3,479 posts)they'll just be replaced with Trump lackeys.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Luciferous
(6,586 posts)they will probably just ignore it, although I can understand why current employees would be reluctant to do the same thing.
redstatebluegirl
(12,827 posts)of the DOJ.
spanone
(141,610 posts)Dennis Donovan
(31,059 posts)spanone
(141,610 posts)MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)"We, the undersigned, are alumni of the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) who have collectively served both Republican and Democratic administrations. Each of us strongly condemns President Trumps and Attorney General Barrs interference in the fair administration of justice.
As former DOJ officials, we each proudly took an oath to support and defend our Constitution and faithfully execute the duties of our offices. The very first of these duties is to apply the law equally to all Americans. This obligation flows directly from the Constitution, and it is embedded in countless rules and laws governing the conduct of DOJ lawyers. The Justice Manual the DOJs rulebook for its lawyers states that the rule of law depends on the evenhanded administration of justice; that the Departments legal decisions must be impartial and insulated from political influence; and that the Departments prosecutorial powers, in particular, must be exercised free from partisan consideration.
All DOJ lawyers are well-versed in these rules, regulations, and constitutional commands. They stand for the proposition that political interference in the conduct of a criminal prosecution is anathema to the Departments core mission and to its sacred obligation to ensure equal justice under the law.
And yet, President Trump and Attorney General Barr have openly and repeatedly flouted this fundamental principle, most recently in connection with the sentencing of President Trumps close associate, Roger Stone, who was convicted of serious crimes. The Department has a long-standing practice in which political appointees set broad policies that line prosecutors apply to individual cases. That practice exists to animate the constitutional principles regarding the even-handed application of the law. Although there are times when political leadership appropriately weighs in on individual prosecutions, it is unheard of for the Departments top leaders to overrule line prosecutors, who are following established policies, in order to give preferential treatment to a close associate of the President, as Attorney General Barr did in the Stone case. It is even more outrageous for the Attorney General to intervene as he did here after the President publicly condemned the sentencing recommendation that line prosecutors had already filed in court."
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Dennis Donovan
(31,059 posts)No copyright issues with this.
dchill
(42,660 posts)Dennis Donovan
(31,059 posts)On the medium.com page, they have a mechanism for other fmr-DoJ employees to co-sign the statement, so expect that number to grow!
dchill
(42,660 posts)What took them so long?
Dennis Donovan
(31,059 posts)It was the proverbial straw.
bronxiteforever
(11,212 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)to undermine DOJ prosecutors on the Flynn case.
And I'm pretty sure they are trying to find dirt on Pres. O as well.
Asshole Barr is as sick as t-rump, McTurtle and the rest of the insane cult.
calimary
(90,021 posts)Because King Jingo (my husbands new name for trump) doesnt think he got enough revenge on her, too.
Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)with all they have. And they have a lot. AG, Justice, Senate, Presidency and propaganda networks unseen before. Makes you wish for a selective, party specific coronavirus.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Don't just condemn him.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)since tRump took office. Barr groveled for this job, so there is no surprise about what he is doing. Something HAS to be done, even before the next election, to right the ship of state. tRump has already declared himself a "king". When so many career lawyers are alarmed to this extent, we should all take notice. tRump has installed people just like Barr in all departments of the government. Most of them are inexperienced, with no knowledge of what their "jobs" entail. For him to have amassed this many incompetant people, there must be a department labeled "Toadies for Trump" I imagine their headquarters is based in Mar-A-Lardo.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)He just uses people.
That argument that he is "protecting his friends" is not true. He is not protecting his friends because he has no friends, what he is protecting is himself by favouring Stone to make sure Stone doesn't spill his guts, it is a mutual agreement. We all know that if the opportunity comes, trump will throw Stone under the bus.
trump is obstructing justice, nothing short of that, he knows Stone and other people who are being investigated, indicted or tried have all the dirt they need to bury him, and that is what he is protecting, he doesn't care about the people it is his skin he is worried about.
Why doesn't he throw Giuliani under the bus? Because Giuliani "has insurance", and we all know what that means.
paleotn
(22,218 posts)With McConnell, the surviving Koch, The Heritage Foundation, Gym Jordan and the hacks, the Mercers, Sheldon Adelson and the whole Fox crew, et. al. about to realize their dream of a Fascist States of America, they won't stop now. Weaponizing DOJ and filling the judiciary with judges who would do the Reich Ministry of Justice proud are the finally pieces of their puzzle.
Dennis Donovan
(31,059 posts)The little jig he did on Thursday wasn't for Trump's specific benefit (although it's very likely he coordinated it with the WH). That was for those in DoJ who were threatening to mutiny. Apparently, they weren't fooled, hence the bombshell letter today from their former DoJ co-workers.
paleotn
(22,218 posts)I don't think Barr gives two shits what his employees think. Let them mutiny. They're replaceable. The ultimate prize for Barr, Trump and the rest is right in front of them and they won't quite now. And the media will keep on with its...don't hyperventilate! It's not THAT bad!..false equivalence!...false equivalence!...while the democracy burns down around their conspicuously objective heads. On the NPR show Here and Now this week a former Reagan official, now a Harvard Law professor seemed dismayed at Robin Young's obvious lack of concern about Barr and what amounts to weaponizing the DOJ. I felt like reaching through the radio and slapping the shit out of her. And that's on NPR! Imagine how the Chuck Todds of the industry are reporting this.
After the Senate let widespread corruption slide, I thought maybe the whole ancient, American ideal of rule of law and equality before the law...that you just don't fuck with DOJ .... would give them pause. It didn't. There are no more firewalls except Nov. 2. There are no more checks and balances except Nov 2. And my worst fears are realized. They are weaponizing DOJ as McConnell is weaponizing the judiciary. Even if the courts strike down this or order that, what's the stop this administration from simply giving them the middle finger? Nothing. It's like Senate Republicans don't have a clue what they've unleashed or if they do, they simply don't give a shit.
Martin Eden
(15,628 posts)dalton99a
(94,119 posts)Prue
(139 posts)We should aim for McConnell first. Once he is no longer a factor in the Senate we can move legislation through Congress and harness trump and his allies.
calimary
(90,021 posts)The likenesses are amazingly good! And the message is even better.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Make the likelyhood he will be sent to prison for his corruption , his lies, his obstructions, and he conspired to do everything, and he will have to face justice from the next AG, who knows could be Hillary, or Kamala , or someone he really hates or is scared of, Robert Mueller. His time in the barrel is coming fast now for all he's done to hurt the justice department, and the rule of law. I'd bet he's not sleeping well at night now. Barr cold also become trumps biggest nightmare soon.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Signing letter that trump committed crime obstruction of justice.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Swede
(39,492 posts)This will never end until the Orange fat Hitler is gone.
PatrickforO
(15,425 posts)obstructing justice, but it serves as a challenge to wake up Americans to what is happening.
Seriously, I had a public notary come to my house last week to witness something. She was a really nice lady, had a good sense of humor, and was professional and knowledgeable enough in her field.
We got to talking and I lamented that many people in the US are very sophisticated about sports, can give you stats and even do some very in-depth analysis of how their teams are doing. Or can tell you just who might survive on the island in the Survivor show. If that is even still on. But these same people can't tell you how many houses our Congress has, or how many justices sit on the Supreme Court.
That was when she said that neither she nor her husband vote because they don't follow politics and because they don't, they know they are ignorant. So they do not vote.
I'm sitting there, mind reeling in a silent scream. She had no idea what a disgusting rotten turnip Trump is, and how criminal his whole administration is, and the things I said clearly didn't convince her. She left as determined to not vote as she came in.
So after she left I thought about the whole conversation. There are three kinds of ignorant voters, it seems:
1. People who are too lazy to follow events, and don't vote because they know they are ignorant (like my notary).
2. People who have good intentions, but are ignorant and basically pick an answer for each office. You know, the kind of people who, in high school, would not study, but then just pick 'c' most of the time. These are the folks who begin paying attention the week of, get lost in the complexity of the issues and don't really know what they are doing when they vote their ballots. These are mostly independent voters.
3. People who are propagandized through decades of fear- and hate-mongering from the right wing noise machine and vote ignorantly either to take down the liberals, or to prevent someone else from getting any public benefits, even if that means they don't get those benefits themselves. There's a book called 'Dying of Whiteness' out there that highlights a bunch of cases of that - sick old white guys that don't support expanding healthcare because they don't want the blacks to have it. Seriously. These are the hard-core racist, homophobic, xenophobic, white supremacist, bible-thumping gun nuts that make up Trump's base.
That's why letters like this open one are good, I think. The majority of Americans (God help us!) are in category '2' above. Basically decent people, if ignorant, and if they hear the truth, it will help them make more informed decisions when voting.
triron
(22,240 posts)triron
(22,240 posts)MerryBlooms
(12,248 posts)Rogerpatterson
(17 posts)Now Barr's statement to Trump to keep his pie hole shut makes a lot more sense. You can't manage people if you don't have their respect and that's where Barr's at right now.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)And sent to the re-education camps...
CalFione
(571 posts)If Barr wants to ignore this, he can.
The only thing getting Barr out will be the defeat of Trump.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,957 posts)The "king" has been crowned by the jester in court.
Blue Owl
(59,104 posts)NotHardly
(2,705 posts)These bastard are late to the dance.
lostnfound
(17,520 posts)Hard to see anything that works, you have better idea?
Turbineguy
(40,074 posts)"Where do I find somebody worse?"
Vivienne235729
(3,748 posts)He needs to go.

