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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,858 posts)
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:01 PM Feb 2020

Why Americans are carrying an average credit card balance of over $6,200

Americans may have a love-hate relationship with their credit cards, but that’s not preventing them from piling on debt.

The country’s outstanding credit card and other types of revolving debt have jumped almost 20% from a decade ago, reaching an all-time high of about $1.1 trillion, according to a recent study from CompareCards.

The average balance on a credit card is now almost $6,200, and the typical American holds four credit cards, according to the credit bureau Experian. Credit card issuers are also giving Americans more room to run up debt, boosting the typical credit limit by 20% over the last decade to $31,000.

The reasons for the spike in credit card debt are complicated and potentially worrisome, financial experts say. A middle-class lifestyle has become more expensive with the cost of health care and education outpacing wage growth, prompting more households to rely on their cards to cover emergency expenses and daily spending, experts say.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/credit/why-americans-are-carrying-an-average-credit-card-balance-of-over-dollar6200/ar-BBZULwE?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=hplocalnews

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Why Americans are carrying an average credit card balance of over $6,200 (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 OP
It burns me to see them push those things on college students who are already looking at redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #1
The Card Act keeps college credit cards down. Buckeyeblue Feb 2020 #7
wow Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #2
wow, out of touch. Merlot Feb 2020 #8
Why? I didn't have a checking, savings or CC from 1984 till 2004. Lochloosa Feb 2020 #11
I have debit cards, but no credit accounts Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #12
I got married. She insisted. Lochloosa Feb 2020 #17
Debit cards are less secure than credit cards NickB79 Feb 2020 #19
That baloney. lunatica Feb 2020 #20
True KatyMan Feb 2020 #24
They call me every time I buy something expensive with my debit card. Iggo Feb 2020 #41
Agree KatyMan Feb 2020 #49
Meanwhile, there's no money in your checking account. marybourg Feb 2020 #38
No. If anyone tries to empty a checking account the debit is refused lunatica Feb 2020 #44
Coworker a month ago came in to work swearing. Igel Feb 2020 #45
Perhaps she didn't have a large balance. lunatica Feb 2020 #46
There is a limit per day on transactions. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #52
Out of credit card debt. (n/t) Iggo Feb 2020 #18
Me too. lunatica Feb 2020 #47
I stopped 10 years ago lunatica Feb 2020 #21
There's a lot to be said shanti Feb 2020 #23
"The average balance on a credit card is now almost $6,200" - wow, I find that hard to believe. n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2020 #3
Yeah, that seems high ... esp. when they add 'the average person has 4' mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #9
shocking nt Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #13
It is now common to see CC with a 25% to 30% interest rate. magicarpet Feb 2020 #29
jaw dropping! Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #37
Legalized usury,... Eliz. Warren's pet peeve,... as are pay day lenders @ 300 to 400 % interest rate magicarpet Feb 2020 #42
Scary. JDC Feb 2020 #4
It tell me our economy is not what they say it is... RANDYWILDMAN Feb 2020 #5
Negative and judgmental framing: "piling on debt" "run up debt" Merlot Feb 2020 #6
+1 leftstreet Feb 2020 #54
The problem is lack of savings Buckeyeblue Feb 2020 #10
Actually, it IS how much you make - if what you make doesn't cover Merlot Feb 2020 #14
This. So much this. Initech Feb 2020 #25
Again, inserting the word "some" before "Americans" in your title would make it accurate. Am abqtommy Feb 2020 #15
Not my article Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #39
HaHa. Not so fast. You are responsible for what you post. Now go and sin no more... abqtommy Feb 2020 #40
Okay Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #48
Up 20% in a decade!!! OMG!!! But, umm, err, uhhh, so is inflation progree Feb 2020 #16
Not to mention that a decade ago was the literal nadir of consumer credit Recursion Feb 2020 #28
Nice not to have a Credit Card Payment isn't it. Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #22
I wouldn't use Experian if you paid me. Initech Feb 2020 #30
Experian is the usual first in line for Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #32
That's pretty much how I do it too. Rorey Feb 2020 #31
Oh so true, Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #34
I have 2 cards that I use constantly. NutmegYankee Feb 2020 #26
That's the way to do it. Rorey Feb 2020 #33
Yup, us too. unitedwethrive Feb 2020 #36
That's what I do spinbaby Feb 2020 #50
A decade ago was an historic low for consumer debt because the global economy had just collapsed Recursion Feb 2020 #27
I'm a bit dismayed, but not entirely shocked at that figure. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #35
"I also find the tendency of younger people to have zero cash on them...to be quite annoying." Iggo Feb 2020 #43
Short answer. raygun Kurt V. Feb 2020 #51
Yep. I'm wondering how many folks on DU are too young MissB Feb 2020 #53
Even millennials know Ronnie Raygun. nt NutmegYankee Feb 2020 #55
Oh yeah of course they know who he is MissB Feb 2020 #59
I did. NutmegYankee Feb 2020 #60
Raygun wanted to eliminate the deduction of mortgage interest hangaleft Feb 2020 #62
My ex-wife did not understand why I insisted that we pay off the credit cards every month when most keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #56
I had no credit card debt for years, then.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #57
This is what's driving Trump's "great" economy. Borrowed money. Yavin4 Feb 2020 #58
20 years ago, I had a pretty large CC balance MiniMe Feb 2020 #61

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
1. It burns me to see them push those things on college students who are already looking at
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:03 PM
Feb 2020

huge student loan debt. Those parasites are on campus all the time.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
7. The Card Act keeps college credit cards down.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:14 PM
Feb 2020

Anyone under 21 has to demonstrate an ability to pay or have a co-borrower. Not like when I was in college and you could get a credit card with a 2500 line just for being able to breathe.

Lochloosa

(16,061 posts)
11. Why? I didn't have a checking, savings or CC from 1984 till 2004.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:26 PM
Feb 2020

Simple life.

The only reason I had to get one was to fly and be able to rent a car.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
12. I have debit cards, but no credit accounts
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:32 PM
Feb 2020

Wouldn't a mastercard debit or visa debit card be good enough to rent a car? I used to pay for airline tickets with check. Don't keep a checking account any more.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
19. Debit cards are less secure than credit cards
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:31 PM
Feb 2020

A scammer with access to your debit card can drain your account with no protection. Most credit cards limit the amount of money you're on the hook for with fraudulent purchases.

If you can control your spending and pay it off each month, credit cards are far superior to debit cards.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
20. That baloney.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:38 PM
Feb 2020

If someone uses your debit card illegally you inform the bank and they will look into it and give you back the amount you were scammed.

Iggo

(47,546 posts)
41. They call me every time I buy something expensive with my debit card.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 07:52 PM
Feb 2020

Annoying and reassuring at the same time.

KatyMan

(4,189 posts)
49. Agree
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:02 PM
Feb 2020

I've never had the issues with BoA or Comcast that others have had. Whether I morally approve of them is a different discussion.
Enjoy the rest of your Sunday Iggo!

marybourg

(12,607 posts)
38. Meanwhile, there's no money in your checking account.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 07:22 PM
Feb 2020

Poster above is absolutely correct. Credit cards are much safer from outside interference than debit cards. The only danger to credit cards is from you!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
44. No. If anyone tries to empty a checking account the debit is refused
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 08:12 PM
Feb 2020

I’ve even had mine refused for purchases that are large and once I had a payment refused because I was in a high crime area getting my tires changed.

Igel

(35,293 posts)
45. Coworker a month ago came in to work swearing.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 08:21 PM
Feb 2020

They'd drained her checking account using her debit card info.

They didn't pull one large amount. They pulled multiple smaller amounts.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
46. Perhaps she didn't have a large balance.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 08:28 PM
Feb 2020

My bank has always watched out for me for more than 10 years. It’s not a huge bank though it is in a few states.

sheshe2

(83,710 posts)
52. There is a limit per day on transactions.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:34 PM
Feb 2020

On mine total purchases is 1005. Debit withdrawal is 500.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
21. I stopped 10 years ago
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:41 PM
Feb 2020

Being able to sleep nights instead of worrying all night has given me a much better life!

shanti

(21,675 posts)
23. There's a lot to be said
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:49 PM
Feb 2020

about living within your means. When I retired, I paid off all my cc and cut them up. It's a damn good feeling!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
9. Yeah, that seems high ... esp. when they add 'the average person has 4'
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:15 PM
Feb 2020

Which implies the average person has $24,800 in revolving charge card debt. I'd shocked and chagrined if it's that high. And I'm very curious what the 'denominator' is in that equation. Is it 'people who have >0 credit cards', or ... what?

Cause $1,100,000,000,000/$24,800 only comes out to 44M and change. I'd think a lot more than 44M people in the US have >0 credit cards.

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
42. Legalized usury,... Eliz. Warren's pet peeve,... as are pay day lenders @ 300 to 400 % interest rate
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 07:55 PM
Feb 2020

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,667 posts)
5. It tell me our economy is not what they say it is...
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:12 PM
Feb 2020

Wages are and have not been keeping up with inflation. The secret that no one is willing to admit too. The other death grip is not being able to discarge student loans.

If my company can discharge and pay pennies on the dollar to my pension, when they claim bankrupcy, why can't we do the same with student loans.

My wife took 18 years to pay of her state school law loans, her old partner paid off his state school working partime in during law school.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
6. Negative and judgmental framing: "piling on debt" "run up debt"
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:13 PM
Feb 2020

Makes it sound like people are going on spending sprees instead of trying to make ends meet.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
10. The problem is lack of savings
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:18 PM
Feb 2020

So when unexpected costs come up like car repairs people don't have the money set aside to pay for it. Throw over spending at Christmas and other necessities and suddenly you have a 6k balance.

As my grandpa used to say, "It's not how much you make, it's how much you spend."

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
14. Actually, it IS how much you make - if what you make doesn't cover
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:42 PM
Feb 2020

cost of living there is no way you're going to save any money.

Initech

(100,056 posts)
25. This. So much this.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:00 PM
Feb 2020

If you spend everything you make and don't save any money, you're gonna have a bad time. Of course I learned that the hard way when I nearly went broke a few years ago. Now I try to save as much as possible with every paycheck. Paying cash for most of your spending is a good way to keep track of what you spend as opposed to using a credit card. Cash is there for a reason.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
15. Again, inserting the word "some" before "Americans" in your title would make it accurate. Am
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:52 PM
Feb 2020

I the only American that has NO credit cards and NO credit card debt? I don't think so. I learned that
hard lesson years ago and I learned it well.

progree

(10,901 posts)
16. Up 20% in a decade!!! OMG!!! But, umm, err, uhhh, so is inflation
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:57 PM
Feb 2020

They didn't say exactly what period the decade covers but I compared the CPI in December 2009 to that of December 2019, and found the CPI was up 18.9% over that period.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SA0

So that means it's a real (i.e. inflation-adjusted) increase of (1.20/1.189 -1) *100% = 0.92% increase over a decade

On top of that we have a 7.1% larger population than we had 10 years ago. So the per-capita inflation-adjusted credit card debt is quite a bit lower than a decade ago.

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/

On the other hand, it ought to be since 2009 was the pit of the Great Recession. That we're at about the same level of inflation-adjusted per-capita credit card debt now as back then is not too comforting.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
28. Not to mention that a decade ago was the literal nadir of consumer credit
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:06 PM
Feb 2020

what with the whole global economic collapse.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
22. Nice not to have a Credit Card Payment isn't it.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:41 PM
Feb 2020

But,these unused Cards have a downfall. The issuer keeps sending info to the three Credit Agencies and if you let any card sit dormant,do not know the number of days,your limit can drop,your interest rate will most likely be adjusted upward and treated as a dead account.

Esperian is the ugliest when messing with Fico Scores. So what we do is,put a purchase on the card knowing we do the payoff one day after it is posted in the Transaction Window of our Account. Learned this directly from our Credit Union customer service person.

Initech

(100,056 posts)
30. I wouldn't use Experian if you paid me.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:08 PM
Feb 2020

Same with Lifelock or any of the other BS services that you don't need. They're making money selling an invisible product and they're the worst to deal with.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
32. Experian is the usual first in line for
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:14 PM
Feb 2020

Banks reports on Clients. Yes they are pure nasty,btw,all those junk mailers you get as well as some of those unwanted phone calls,they happen because Experian sells their Phone and Mailing lists to anyone who pays the fee.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
31. That's pretty much how I do it too.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:13 PM
Feb 2020

I try to use each of them at least every other month, and then pay them off shortly after the purchases show up in my accounts.

I think credit cards are fine when coupled with self-discipline. I get perks and don't have any with annual fees, so they actually save me money. But self-discipline is imperative.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
34. Oh so true,
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:22 PM
Feb 2020

sucks when you have to have one in order to rent a car,or buy plane tickets. Worst is,for many folks who need Utilities in some Cities. Another is buying Auto,or Home Insurance. Or even Satellite or Cable service.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
26. I have 2 cards that I use constantly.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:00 PM
Feb 2020

I have never once paid interest on them since I pay the statement balance every month in full. I get the protection from theft of the cards and rake in the rewards from those cards.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
33. That's the way to do it.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:15 PM
Feb 2020

I forgot to mention the protection. And they can be a big time-saver too, in that you can pay quickly.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
36. Yup, us too.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 07:03 PM
Feb 2020

It's been over 20 years that we've been charging EVERYTHING possible on our cards, and have our accounts on autopay to pay of the entire balance each month. In that time, we have taken nice vacations once or twice a year and have never paid for flights or hotels (for our family of 5). We have chosen cards with fees, because we actually use the perks that are offered, like paying for our Global Entry fees and travel expenses, as well as providing upgraded trip and rental car insurance.

I feel much more comfortable giving my kids a credit card when they started being independent (usually sometime in middle school) than having them carry around cash. It's easier to track their spending, and if they lose or misplace it, the fix is relatively effortless.

spinbaby

(15,088 posts)
50. That's what I do
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 09:19 PM
Feb 2020

I put everything big on a card that gets me air miles, pay it off right away, and average about one free flight a year.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
27. A decade ago was an historic low for consumer debt because the global economy had just collapsed
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:04 PM
Feb 2020

Being up 20% from that isn't necessarily a bad thing

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
35. I'm a bit dismayed, but not entirely shocked at that figure.
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:28 PM
Feb 2020

I was carrying about that amount of unpaid credit card debt for a while, and then a couple of years ago was able to pay it off. I still use a credit card but pay it off each month, so there's no interest charged. I use the points on the card to buy myself gift cards for things like the local movie theater chain or certain restaurants.

I actually pay cash for all of my day-to-day expenses, including buying clothes and groceries. I find it a much more effective way to manage my money.

While it's possible to live entirely without a credit card, they are useful for large purchases or emergencies. I tend to think not having one at least for emergencies isn't such a good idea. I also find the tendency of younger people to have zero cash on them because they use a charge or debit card for everything to be quite annoying. Because most places have some sort of minimum to use a card, they wind up purchasing something they don't really want to get the thing they do want.

Clearly, different people lead different financial lives.

Iggo

(47,546 posts)
43. "I also find the tendency of younger people to have zero cash on them...to be quite annoying."
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 08:03 PM
Feb 2020

My department at work consists of me and another guy in our late fifties, three guys twenty-five and under, and our supervisor who is about in the middle. Fun times paying separately at Chili's, I tell you what.

Even more fun when we eat off the taco truck.

MissB

(15,805 posts)
59. Oh yeah of course they know who he is
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:05 PM
Feb 2020

But do they know that credit card interest used to be deductible until raygun.

 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
62. Raygun wanted to eliminate the deduction of mortgage interest
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 10:29 AM
Feb 2020

He succeeded in eliminating the deduction of credit card interest, interest on personal loans (e.g., interest on auto loans) and interest on student loans. He also eliminated income averaging, which saved me a bundle. All “reform”s targeting the little guy.

keithbvadu2

(36,724 posts)
56. My ex-wife did not understand why I insisted that we pay off the credit cards every month when most
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 10:41 PM
Feb 2020

My ex-wife did not understand why I insisted that we pay off the credit cards every month when most of our friends had a permanent balance due.

After the divorce, she ran up the cards and realized how much interest she was paying and not running down the balance very quickly.

She took out a bank loan and paid them mostly off.
She still had the same amount of debt to start but the lower interest rate allowed her to pay off the balance much quicker.

When she bought her trailer and land, the bank asked her for her cc balance.
She said it was about 600 or 800 dollars.
Said his jaw just about hit the floor.
He was used to hearing 3000, 5000, 8000 or more.

Now she understands.

Happy Hoosier

(7,277 posts)
57. I had no credit card debt for years, then....
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 10:50 PM
Feb 2020

Last year happened. Lots if unexpected home repair expenses, medical bills, and some other disasters all happened. I used the credit cards. And I am glad I had them. But now I al paying them off. It’ll probably take a few years.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
61. 20 years ago, I had a pretty large CC balance
Sun Feb 16, 2020, 11:57 PM
Feb 2020

Finally sold my house and paid off all the balances. My credit was ruined for about 7 years, but it is good now, and I actually have a few cards which get paid off every month. I am actually carrying 0 debt at the current time,and it feels good.

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