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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:26 PM Feb 2020

Rachel Maddow on the DoJ letter signed by 1100+ fmr DoJ officials

Rachel Maddow MSNBC ✔@maddow

I know you've seen headlines about former DOJ officials calling for AG Barr to resign, but read their actual letter.

This part strikes me as really important in terms of what happens next, and how the country can potentially pull back from the brink:

Medium.com link to the letter


"We call on every DOJ employee to be prepared to report future abuses to the Inspector General, the Office of Professional Responsibility, and Congress; to refuse to carry out directives that are inconsistent with their oaths of office...

"... to withdraw from cases that involve such directives or other misconduct; and, if necessary, to resign and report publicly — in a manner consistent with professional ethics — to the American people the reasons for their resignation."

"We support and commend the four prosecutors who upheld their oaths and stood up for the Dept’s independence by withdrawing from the Stone case and/or resigning from DOJ. Our message to them is that we — and millions of other Americans — stand with them."








Of course, her show will be especially "must watch" in the wake of the letter's release.
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Rachel Maddow on the DoJ letter signed by 1100+ fmr DoJ officials (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 OP
Hoping they honor their oath Prue Feb 2020 #1
What does "stand with them" mean? MyOwnPeace Feb 2020 #2
Anyone who resigns in protest will be a hero, IMO Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #3
How does this fit with Eric Holder telling them DON"T resign? Amaryllis Feb 2020 #4

Prue

(139 posts)
1. Hoping they honor their oath
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:44 PM
Feb 2020

I caught her show the other evening when she was going over the letter. Taking an oath to uphold the Constitution is a heavy burden but it is one of the most important pledges any civil servant, core or citizen can take. You never think you will be called upon to put that oath into action and that's why it's so important when that time does come.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
2. What does "stand with them" mean?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:47 PM
Feb 2020

Sorry, gotta' ask.
Let's talk about the 4 attorneys that resigned from the Stone case, one of whom even left the Justice Department.
I know we all think attorneys are "rolling in it" but seriously, how will they continue their current style of living?
I think the other 3 will just report back to their past position in the department, but what about that one guy?
Where's he getting the money to pay the bills?
Is he still covered with medical insurance?

And related to all of that - what about FBI agent McCabe?
He was just cleared in an inquiry about his "conduct."
Does that mean he can get "back-pay?"
How has he been paying his bills since IQ45 threw him out?

Please understand, I totally support their stands and positions.
Is that enough?
Is there more that we can do on their behalf?

We're fighting a monster - they've been on the front line.

Tell us what we can do.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
3. Anyone who resigns in protest will be a hero, IMO
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 03:59 PM
Feb 2020

...at least to law firms that still actually believe in the rule of law.

I hope.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
4. How does this fit with Eric Holder telling them DON"T resign?
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 04:06 PM
Feb 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212994057
(go to link for tweet)
Eric Holder message to men & women of FBI, DoJ: DO NOT RESIGN.

Eric Holder

@EricHolder

To the men and women of DOJ/FBI: do NOT resign, stay strong, in all your actions be true to the oath you have sworn, report wrongdoing. The era of Trump and Barr will pass-their slander, insults and corrupt acts will end. We - the American people - respect & believe in you.
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