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NATIVE AMERICAN WISDOM (Original Post) sheshe2 Feb 2020 OP
Beautiful way to put it...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #1
True and beautifully stated. brer cat Feb 2020 #2
How was Crazy Horse aware of a Kenyan proverb? Sneederbunk Feb 2020 #3
Or not. Igel Feb 2020 #6
A study of history shows that various philosophies were common throughout the world at the abqtommy Feb 2020 #8
Beautiful sentiments that are wise and worthy of respect defacto7 Feb 2020 #9
Recommended. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #4
That's how my dad raised me. Dem2theMax Feb 2020 #5
First known to be Native American in 1991. Igel Feb 2020 #7

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
8. A study of history shows that various philosophies were common throughout the world at the
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:45 PM
Feb 2020

time Jesus was supposed to be living.No surprise then. Look it up!

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
9. Beautiful sentiments that are wise and worthy of respect
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 07:49 PM
Feb 2020

don't need to be argued over origin in every case. What was the intent of the op?

Although I like studying origins of language and archaeology it's not necessary to question something that is profound just because it's origin is arguable. There are some amazing hieroglyphics from 2100 BCE that speak philosophical ideas attributed to later Chinese, Greek, or biblical philosphers covering spans of thousands of years. It seems some profound ideas are timeless and are just part of the human experience. Origin in that case is only a curiosity.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. Recommended.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:21 PM
Feb 2020

But all of that oil cannot be left in the earth She.

The already too rich need even more.

Igel

(35,268 posts)
7. First known to be Native American in 1991.
Mon Feb 17, 2020, 06:44 PM
Feb 2020
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/01/22/borrow-earth/
U.S. Council on Environmental Quality used it, attributed it, gave no source. But it took 20 years for it to get to the form that somebody long dead by then eventually arrived at. That was Chief Seattle.

That's the problem with oral traditions. Some, like the Zuni, you see archaic words and when you do some historical linguistics you find that they're almost unintelligible but preserved. Because steps were taken to preserve the details.

In other cases, like a researcher who went to track down in the '80s some oral histories in West Africa recorded in the 1930s, found that they'd been pretty thoroughly revised by the "oral historians" to serve the historians' purposes in the 1980s.

But once attributed to somebody or a group with special status, to say that it really can't be sourced to them is risky. It goes against right policy and proper politics.

I'd add that in the '80s as part of my job I read big chunks of Rushdoony's _Institutes_ and a lot of North's Xian Reconstructionist works. Both--perhaps because North was a rejected student of Rushdoony--made the same claim about the OT business of being stewards of the Earth: If you don't leave your land to your grandchildren in better shape than you found it, you're actively breaking the commandment and violating God's covenant. The _Institutes_ were published in '73, but in gestation for a while before that, so probably about coeval with the first reference on the website I referenced. Not sure Rushdoony would have been reading environmental tracts at the time. Doesn't sound like the mental image I have of the guy.

And for many, it's an integral part of tikkun olam.
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