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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't really understand how the Presidential Pardon makes sense in our system of government.
The president gets a stack of get-out-of-jail-free cards to use at will. If that person is a thoughtful, reasonable person then perhaps it makes the system a little more fair. But if that person has criminal tendencies of his own, its just going to be abused.
I'd like to do away with it, frankly.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Winner is on the Dem president's first things to do list, if things work out.
onenote
(42,702 posts)It's in the Constitution. A president could choose not to use it, but that's never going to happen, nor should it. There are instances where a pardon or clemency is warranted.
Do you object to Jimmy Carter's grant of pardons to thousands of Vietnam era draft evaders?
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)from my poli-sci classes, it was a power designed to heal the nation. Of course, the founding fathers expected that it would be used wisely for that purpose.
former9thward
(32,004 posts)It should be there. Opponents of every president have claimed he abused it. That goes with the territory. It was placed in the Constitution for a good reason.
bluestarone
(16,939 posts)ABUSE the hell out of this for sure!
unblock
(52,221 posts)imagine if donnie and barr and the rest of these bastards fabricate charges and fake trials and convictions for half the democrats in washington!
if there's ever a democratic president, we'll want that person to be able to undo a lot of damage!
UTUSN
(70,691 posts)It's a remnant of Royalism, divine right. But most of all, it is totally UNFETTERED POWER. For SHITLER, it is his wielding of unquestioned power, about the only real power he can claim is legitimate under the Constitution. The ultimate orgasm for him that nobody can challenge.
onenote
(42,702 posts)UTUSN
(70,691 posts)total power. Without the celebrated "checks and balances" that were supposed to be an organizing principle of the Constitution. I was pretty clear that I am talking about unfettered power, anti-democratic Royal power. So since I'm saying that, it means I am against *all* Pardons done by one person's say-so. Whether there are morally protected classes for "good" vs "bad" Pardons is a separate and intricately open topic that I'm not addressing.
Turbineguy
(37,329 posts)Quality of Mercy.
Trump tarnishes everything.