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Xipe Totec

(43,889 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 10:14 PM Feb 2020

You cannot be tried or convicted of a crime before you commit it

So why should you be allowed to pardon anyone for a crime that hasn't been charged or tried?

If we don't charge these bastards until after Trump leaves office, he should not be allowed to pardon them before then.

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You cannot be tried or convicted of a crime before you commit it (Original Post) Xipe Totec Feb 2020 OP
I'm afraid that doesn't follow FBaggins Feb 2020 #1
Says who? Xipe Totec Feb 2020 #3
As I recall customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #4
All true, but that does not answer the question. nt Xipe Totec Feb 2020 #6
The Constitution FBaggins Feb 2020 #7
The nazis will do it... abqtommy Feb 2020 #2
But you can be pardoned before you're formally charged, or tried, or convicted. Iggo Feb 2020 #5

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
1. I'm afraid that doesn't follow
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 10:19 PM
Feb 2020

Both revolve around whether the crime has been committed.

A president can’t pardon someone for future crimes... but he doesn’t have to wait for charges to be brought

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
4. As I recall
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 10:43 PM
Feb 2020

Ford pardoned Nixon before either any criminal charges. Even impeachment had not yet been voted on by the House, although the pardon power does not extend to impeachment.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
7. The Constitution
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 11:05 PM
Feb 2020

Perhaps you’ve heard of it?

From the Civil War era case ex parte Garland:

“extends to every offense known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.”

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