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BittyJenkins

(409 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 03:37 PM Feb 2020

An Honest Question

It is obvious that we are marching toward the reality of Germany in the 1930's. Are there any DU scholars that can look at what happened in Germany...and what could have happened differently to change the course?

Honestly, I feel so helpless and I want a path that can build, not just complain and worry.

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An Honest Question (Original Post) BittyJenkins Feb 2020 OP
We'll be OK Bitty. Frasier Balzov Feb 2020 #1
Maybe the Reichstag Fire. moondust Feb 2020 #2
Perhaps the biggest motivation for Germany in the 30s was the way the victorious allies of abqtommy Feb 2020 #3
I believe our diversity will save us from the fate of 1930's Germany. Mister Ed Feb 2020 #4

Frasier Balzov

(2,643 posts)
1. We'll be OK Bitty.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 03:57 PM
Feb 2020

Think of our situation as a new and improved version of the 1960s.

We have the speaking out and the relentless objection to the wrong we see.

If we can keep a lid on any political violence, then what we have previously loved will be reclaimed, misshapen or beautified.



moondust

(19,972 posts)
2. Maybe the Reichstag Fire.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 04:18 PM
Feb 2020
The Nazi Party used the fire as a pretext to claim that communists were plotting against the German government, and the event is considered pivotal in the establishment of Nazi Germany. The term "Reichstag fire" has come to refer to false flag actions facilitated by an authority to promote their own interests through popular approval of retribution or retraction of civil rights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

After that the Reichstag Fire Decree was issued by German President Paul von Hindenburg on the advice of Chancellor Adolf Hitler, plus the Reichstag passed the Enabling Act of 1933.

The combined effect of the two laws was to transform Hitler's government into a legal dictatorship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
3. Perhaps the biggest motivation for Germany in the 30s was the way the victorious allies of
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 04:19 PM
Feb 2020

WWI put the screws to the German people. The resentment among Germans really helped the ascension of the Nationalists/Nazis.

Of course there is valid resentment and faux resentment and it seems to me that the present-day
nazis are showing faux resentment and a desire to inflame the hatred that is a feature of all
nationalistic groups.

Mister Ed

(5,928 posts)
4. I believe our diversity will save us from the fate of 1930's Germany.
Wed Feb 19, 2020, 04:33 PM
Feb 2020

This is not some sort of warm-and-fuzzy "Isn't diversity nice?" sentiment on my part. It's my cold assessment of the situation.

1930's Germany was a largely homogeneous society, with just enough of a minority group to serve as the scapegoat, the hated Others.

U.S. society is much, much more diverse. Too many different cultures to get us marching in lockstep.

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