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Zoonart

(11,854 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:24 AM Feb 2020

Roger Stone will be sentenced at 10am this morning.

How much time will he get?


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10-20 years
2 (11%)
5-7 years
11 (61%)
1-3years
2 (11%)
6-10 months
0 (0%)
3months + probation
0 (0%)
Sentence and immediate pardon
3 (17%)
Tickertape Parade
0 (0%)
Pie
0 (0%)
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Roger Stone will be sentenced at 10am this morning. (Original Post) Zoonart Feb 2020 OP
Your poll has big gaps in it. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #1
Just looking at high, middle, and low guidelines as I have seen discussed as possibilities. Zoonart Feb 2020 #2
Where is the original auggestion? SlogginThroughIt Feb 2020 #6
Preponderance of thought is that he will not receive more than 7. Zoonart Feb 2020 #10
I'll say "4 years", followed by Trump's pardon in "4 minutes". bullwinkle428 Feb 2020 #3
You could be right. I'll put in a box for* add your own. Zoonart Feb 2020 #4
YEAH, BABY!! I NEED TO PLAY POWERBALL TODAY!! bullwinkle428 Feb 2020 #19
Judge is in an impossible situation. Johnny2X2X Feb 2020 #5
The pardon is ready to be signed dalton99a Feb 2020 #7
so go for the max if it makes no difference scarytomcat Feb 2020 #17
So the minute he is pardoned, greymattermom Feb 2020 #8
That's the thing about a pardon...he will Zoonart Feb 2020 #12
Also- Zoonart Feb 2020 #13
+1 2naSalit Feb 2020 #16
to accept a pardon you have to confess and take responsibility for the crimes scarytomcat Feb 2020 #18
5-7 tavernier Feb 2020 #9
And will be pardoned tomorrow afternoon. Zolorp Feb 2020 #11
7 to 9 years, as recommended by the sentencing guidelines. Greybnk48 Feb 2020 #14
A pardon and then skips the US so he can't be touched. LiberalArkie Feb 2020 #15

Zoonart

(11,854 posts)
2. Just looking at high, middle, and low guidelines as I have seen discussed as possibilities.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:28 AM
Feb 2020

Frankly, the jurists that have been talking about this are all over the map.

Zoonart

(11,854 posts)
10. Preponderance of thought is that he will not receive more than 7.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:35 AM
Feb 2020

I only included 10-20 as a "Throw the book at him" Fantasy.
Feel free to make your own guess.

Johnny2X2X

(19,051 posts)
5. Judge is in an impossible situation.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:31 AM
Feb 2020

No good way to act for them. Do you take the prosecutions first recommendation? Do you take the DOJ’s revised? So where in between? Do you take into account that the President will pardon him if it’s too severe?

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
17. so go for the max if it makes no difference
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:18 PM
Feb 2020

he is an asshole and criminal that has been screwing with people for a long time. He is a ratfucker.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
8. So the minute he is pardoned,
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:32 AM
Feb 2020

can he be forced to testify? Will he be pardoned again if he ignores a subpoena?

Zoonart

(11,854 posts)
12. That's the thing about a pardon...he will
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:41 AM
Feb 2020

immediately loose his 5th amendment right against self incrimination, because in the accepting the pardon he is admitting guilt.
Yes he can testify and will also be open to new charges.

Zoonart

(11,854 posts)
13. Also-
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:51 AM
Feb 2020

If the pardon power is used with criminal intent then, no, the pardon power is not unlimited. The pardon power can, for example, be used for obstruction of justice, which is a serious crime. So the use of pardon power for Roger Stone or say, Paul Manafort could be viewed as obstruction of justice.

Especially in light of the testimony of Julian Assange in Britain, during which his lawyers asserted that Roger's buddy Assange was offered a pardon if he would announce to the world that Russia had not been involved in the DNC hack. A message that had been , it is surmised, delivered by Dana Rohrabacher. Lawyers do not make claims like this in open court if they do not have evidence to back it up.

So... the whole pardon thin in this case, is a very slippery slope for the Con.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
14. 7 to 9 years, as recommended by the sentencing guidelines.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:00 AM
Feb 2020

To do anything else will look like the Judge was compromised by bullies.

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