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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, how long after the sentence will Trump wait before he pardons Stone?
I say Stone does not even spend one night in jail.
dalton99a
(81,656 posts)Stone won't miss dinner at his favorite restaurant
Jersey Devil
(9,876 posts)The only question is whether he throws in Flynn, Manafort et als at the same time or waits for another day to pardon them.
rzemanfl
(29,577 posts)Jersey Devil
(9,876 posts)Anyone charged will be pardoned
Civile, dedigo,
fortibus in ero,
vadis in dem,
causan dux
Buckeyeblue
(5,504 posts)This could be a tipping point. Trump is in an overly defiant mood lately. He is close to being out of control. It's going to be a long 11 months...
monmouth4
(9,711 posts)Jersey Devil
(9,876 posts)By the election is will be forgotten.
rzemanfl
(29,577 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)what happens to his motion for a new trial?
Jersey Devil
(9,876 posts)A pardon essentially means the trial never happened and the charges were never made as though they have magically disappeared.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Jersey Devil
(9,876 posts)A pardon means, imo, that an offense is void ab initio, as though it never happened. There is no requirement that a person pardoned do anything to accept it or admit anything. Once pardoned, the offense is gone, poof.
Sneederbunk
(14,315 posts)handmade34
(22,759 posts)said he won't go to jail at this time... pending new trial
Jersey Devil
(9,876 posts)I thought the judge had already ruled on it. But I still maintain Trump will not let Stone go to jail even for 15 minutes
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)execute the sentence immediately. She will in all probability suspend execution pending the inevitable appeal, which in practical terms means Stone will sleep in his own bed tonight (and every night thereaftre until Dumpy pardons him). Net resultL Stone does zero days in jail.
Jersey Devil
(9,876 posts)He is feeling his oats after the impeachment and will think it will be forgotten by November.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)how far this unhinged POS will go.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)against Trump and his gang. If he lies in his testimony, his pardon could be invalidated and he could be forced to complete his sentence in prison.
Trump feels strong pressure to win reelection to run out the clock on his various crimes. So, I think that Stone will be required to "suck it up" and wear a number until the day after the election.
Jersey Devil
(9,876 posts)There is no provision for the appeal or oversight of Presidential pardons in the Constitution.
ooky
(8,932 posts)Jersey Devil
(9,876 posts)Trump probably told Manafort to wait for the election.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,202 posts)to have a new pResidential Medal of Honor minted to award to poor little Roger for all the unfairness he has endured.