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Locutusofborg

(525 posts)
1. First time offender and white collar crimes.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:00 PM
Feb 2020

Methinks the judge also wanted to make it more difficult for Trump to pardon Stone or commute his sentence. The longer the sentence, the easier it is for Trump to say it is unfair.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. I hope you're wrong on that ...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:10 PM
Feb 2020

Obviously.

And to bolster the idea that MAYbe he will not ... Manafort is in jail for 7 years.

Granted, he's not as close to Paul as he is to Roger, but there at least is some precedent for his holding back on pardons for his cronies.

I think he's the kinda dude who might just think to himself "welp, he's obviously not as SMART as ME, cause I always beat the rap ... maybe next time he'll be more successful ..... like me ..... at covering his own ass!'

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. That is the flip side ... in fact, Stone is one who can confirm that Trump colluded w/Russia
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:25 PM
Feb 2020

and perhaps the only one who can.

Also, Manafort was trying to get out of debt by latching onto the Trump campaign, and Trumpie hates that kind of stuff. Only HE and his family are to benefit from his 'greatness'. Manafort's involvement in the campaign also brought a lot of the original heat that started the investigation.

However, NOT in Stones favor ... getting caught for talking with Guccifer 2.0. Trump will think Roger wasn't careful enough/brought this on himself.

Hard to know for sure how he'll assess it all in his reptile brain ... but I think a pardon is slightly more likely than not.

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
5. Yup. More fodder for the color driven inequality crowd,
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:21 PM
Feb 2020

of which I am a member.

Three measly years for a lifetime of gaming the system.

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