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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:06 PM Feb 2020

Holy God!!! Rachael: Just now!!!

Tonight the Head of the Dept of National Security was fired by the Trump Administration because today, he reported to congress that there was overwhelming evidence that Russia will once again try their best to influence the upcoming 2020 Election.. In other words Russia will definitely once again wholeheartedly support Trump for Prez. . This is breaking and it is really disturbing and so fucked up on so many levels......God... Give our Country Strength...I beg of you..

Lawrence will probably have more on this breaking story...

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Holy God!!! Rachael: Just now!!! (Original Post) busterbrown Feb 2020 OP
I bet y'all Newest Reality Feb 2020 #1
One more Gem..The person who was given the job.. busterbrown Feb 2020 #2
Trump. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #4
... but he is a gold Trump Card member!! babylonsister Feb 2020 #7
Grenell is the handpicked unqualified Ambassador to Germany malaise Feb 2020 #34
This is a disaster. Trump is normalizing corruption and now supressing truth. nt joost5 Feb 2020 #41
Thanks for that bit... busterbrown Feb 2020 #46
More here malaise Feb 2020 #47
He is a Russian plant. He's a Putin boy. fwvinson Feb 2020 #24
Double worser bad..... trDump flushed the office the Director of National Intellig down the ..... magicarpet Feb 2020 #55
Yes, Twilight Zone DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #14
You bet. Newest Reality Feb 2020 #18
This has been the BIG news story all day, not the debates. BigmanPigman Feb 2020 #3
And yet we are handing the puppet the win Dirtdude Feb 2020 #5
Primary season is always nutz - remember the GOP 2016 primary? alittlelark Feb 2020 #8
Yes, this time they are actually going to try to influence the Democratic primary.... not_the_one Feb 2020 #15
I'm thinking Bernie tinrobot Feb 2020 #23
Sorry, sorry, sorry to blow the argument with a fact: DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #27
Just stating some facts. tinrobot Feb 2020 #28
Yes, the Mueller report did mention Russian trolls imitating Bernie supporters DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #31
Thank you. notinkansas Feb 2020 #38
Maybe people should alert on the bernie bash I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #51
not too complicated. I'll try to break it down. stopdiggin Feb 2020 #49
Bernie also has ties to Gabbard and may have her as a VP pick. Not a smart idea in my mind. nt woodsprite Feb 2020 #40
Gabbard seems like a Russian asset joost5 Feb 2020 #42
This! + 1000 paleotn Feb 2020 #53
I am just absolutely disgusted and discouraged johnnyfins Feb 2020 #6
Idiots like Trump don't care if you think they are good or bad Flash953 Feb 2020 #9
... dumptrump1 Feb 2020 #10
If you didn't watch Rachel Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #11
Yep.. She's good.. busterbrown Feb 2020 #25
How many times can we impeach? nt Laffy Kat Feb 2020 #12
The report to Congress was actually last week, not today Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #13
They are so unprepared zentrum Feb 2020 #16
Trump probably went ballistic JohnnyRingo Feb 2020 #17
Lawrence O'Donnell: Trump is a Russian operative. n/t Eyeball_Kid Feb 2020 #19
whoa. he was that direct? nt Blue_playwright Feb 2020 #21
the most important cog in the russian ops got lung cancer and it's really fucking ridiculous media certainot Feb 2020 #20
If we elect an American President (D) in 2020 Dan Feb 2020 #22
Love your energy.. But there are probably 10 Putin like.. busterbrown Feb 2020 #26
Yeah, you're right. Dan Feb 2020 #29
not to mention fascists in the GOP NewJeffCT Feb 2020 #35
The problem with that is as follows: Volaris Feb 2020 #39
Did anyone have ANY doubts that this election was going to be free of Putin and GOPcheaters? C Moon Feb 2020 #30
How long now have I been whining about not depending on election 2020 to dump Trum? Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #32
Russia/Putin should not pick our POTUS Gothmog Feb 2020 #33
let me know when Rachel and the other talking heads... Hotler Feb 2020 #36
The really scary part is Russia is also hacking the Democratic primary. lark Feb 2020 #37
Hey Russia if you're listening! malaise Feb 2020 #43
They want a weak candidate and a divided Demcratic Party - competing cults bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #45
Dictators hang together, only democracy can defeat them bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #44
Russia is hoping to sow chaos and panic. BarbD Feb 2020 #48
If trump is the patriot Rush says he is kacekwl Feb 2020 #50
Is this really news? bearsfootball516 Feb 2020 #52
News has always meant to me as North East West South busterbrown Feb 2020 #54

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
1. I bet y'all
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:10 PM
Feb 2020

I bet y'all who watched the show when you were young didn't realize that the Twilight Zone was real, the show was prophetic in that sense, and you would be living in it someday, huh?

Me neither.

Imagine, if you will...

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
2. One more Gem..The person who was given the job..
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:17 PM
Feb 2020

Has practically no experience with National Defense Intelligence ..

Frightening!!! Update ..Trump's new Director of National Security??

A Political Fucking Operative.. Lawrence just posted..

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
4. Trump.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:29 PM
Feb 2020

We don't want our stinking Intelligence Intelligent.

I think I am going to cry...bye bye 2020.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
34. Grenell is the handpicked unqualified Ambassador to Germany
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:58 AM
Feb 2020

he was called out by the German government for promoting RW parties in Germany and Europe.
An ignorant white supremacist internet troller - crazy indeed.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
46. Thanks for that bit...
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:42 PM
Feb 2020

Wow... and it all started with his escalator ride down Dump Towers.. The Genesis of Hate..

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
55. Double worser bad..... trDump flushed the office the Director of National Intellig down the .....
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:32 PM
Feb 2020

..... toilet,..... look at this.....Nunes old (Fascist Snot)staffer now advising the temp. DNI.

(begin snip,)

NSC aide who worked to discredit Russia probe moves to senior ODNI post
Kash Patel, a former acolyte of Rep. Devin Nunes, is now a top adviser in the Office of National Intelligence.

Kash Patel, a former top National Security Council official who also played a key role as a Hill staffer in helping Republicans discredit the Russia probe, is now a senior adviser for new acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grenell, according to four people familiar with the matter.

It’s not clear what exact role Patel is playing in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which oversees the U.S. intelligence community. He started at ODNI on Thursday, according to an administration official.

(end snip)
Much more at link,

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/20/kash-patel-odni-post-116546

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
14. Yes, Twilight Zone
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:20 AM
Feb 2020

That parallel universe has descended on us.........

Of course, decades before that show, George Orwell gave us ANIMAL FARM and 1984..........

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
18. You bet.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:32 AM
Feb 2020

1984 is a warning to those who understand it and a playbook for those who want to usher in what we are seeing.

Funny how we have a combination of Orwell and Huxley's Brave New World. It's a hybrid and both Orwell and Huxley were prescient in different ways. Of course, Orwell was drawing from events in his own time and actually documenting in a fictionalized account. He saw the pattern and clearly outlined it and I think he knew it could repeat again and again without knowledge and vigilance by the people.

I think we are collectively missing the crucial import of that message right now. Perhaps the people in history who have been through the horrors of it did the same thing.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
3. This has been the BIG news story all day, not the debates.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:28 PM
Feb 2020

Look on DU....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142435886

Russia Backs Trump's Re-election, and He Fears Democrats Will Exploit Its Support
Source: NYT

WASHINGTON -- Intelligence officials warned House lawmakers last week that Russia was interfering in the 2020 campaign to try to get President Trump re-elected, five people familiar with the matter said, in a disclosure that angered Mr. Trump, who complained that Democrats would use it against him.

The day after the Feb. 13 briefing to lawmakers, Mr. Trump berated Joseph Maguire, the outgoing acting director of national intelligence, for allowing it to take place, people familiar with the exchange said. Mr. Trump cited the presence in the briefing of Representative Adam B. Schiff, the California Democrat who led the impeachment proceedings against him, as a particular irritant.

During the briefing to the House Intelligence Committee, Mr. Trump's allies challenged the conclusions, arguing that Mr. Trump has been tough on Russia and strengthened European security. Some intelligence officials viewed the briefing as a tactical error, saying that had the official who delivered the conclusion spoken less pointedly or left it out, they would have avoided angering the Republicans.

Dirtdude

(47 posts)
5. And yet we are handing the puppet the win
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:32 PM
Feb 2020

I am getting so f$&king tired of what once was the proud resistance reduced to bitching about what color the wall should be painted while the house is burning down.

THERE IS NO-ONE worse than Trump! Not even Bloomberg. Why have we gone so flipping crazy?

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
8. Primary season is always nutz - remember the GOP 2016 primary?
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:42 PM
Feb 2020

THAT was batshit cray cray - this is quite mild in comparison.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
15. Yes, this time they are actually going to try to influence the Democratic primary....
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:21 AM
Feb 2020

I would imagine they are backing Tulsi, for sure.

Otherwise, who would they want to be the nominee?


tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
23. I'm thinking Bernie
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:58 AM
Feb 2020

Trump seems to want him, and Russian bots supported him in 2016.

We're seeing a lot of those same patterns this time out.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
27. Sorry, sorry, sorry to blow the argument with a fact:
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:27 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie is polling double digits against Trump. So get behind Sanders if you're actually concerned about beating Trump. Sanders speaks to working Americans. He even has peeled away some Trump supporters. Sanders has recently received the most in donations from members of the armed services.

Or you could back a loser like Bloomberg.

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
28. Just stating some facts.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:43 AM
Feb 2020

The Russians supported Bernie in 2016. That's well known. Even Bernie acknowledges it.

Maybe you can provide an explanation about why that happened.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
31. Yes, the Mueller report did mention Russian trolls imitating Bernie supporters
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:59 AM
Feb 2020

According to Vermont Public Radio "Other Facebook sites and Twitter accounts imitated Black Lives Matter or Muslim advocacy groups. And some were aimed at getting people not to vote."

It was a total shit storm and singling out one political candidate isn't much help. Sanders didn't ask for the Facebook nonsense, unlike Trump who did it loudly ("Russia if you're listening...&quot , and with a personal stake a mile wide (real estate deals with Moscow). Where was Mark Zuckerberg when all that divide-and-rule trolling was happening? Why did Obama, who was one of our best presidents, let Mitch McConnell spook him out of addressing Russian interference BEFORE the election?

All things considered, Sanders will be a great president and I have no doubt he will shut down all things Russia, all things Trump and all things Citizen United and the fat cats all all over the planet who are the real menace to society.

notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
38. Thank you.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:11 AM
Feb 2020

I am so tired of all the Bernie bashing going on here. I don't even look at those threads any more.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
49. not too complicated. I'll try to break it down.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:30 PM
Feb 2020

It was a disinformation campaign designed to weaken the (supposed) winner of the 2016 election .. the U.S. as a whole .. and the democratic process. (as has been explained time and again by foreign policy and intelligence sources) Ergo .. support for anybody that is not HRC .. plus a large push for any topic that could be construed as divisive. (to further polarize the electorate) There it is in a nutshell!

And the fact that here you are 4 years later implying an insidious connection between Sanders and Putin ...
means that it's still working!

So, thanks!

joost5

(421 posts)
42. Gabbard seems like a Russian asset
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:37 AM
Feb 2020

Mark my words - she's gearing up for an independent run. And will act as a spoiler, drawing independent and moderate votes away from a left leaning candidate, splitting up the Dems just like in 2016 with Hillary losing b/c of all the protest voters going for Jill Stein, throwing the election to Drumpf.

johnnyfins

(816 posts)
6. I am just absolutely disgusted and discouraged
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:35 PM
Feb 2020

Gorky Pig will win his second term. What the hell has happened to our nation?

Flash953

(85 posts)
9. Idiots like Trump don't care if you think they are good or bad
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:50 PM
Feb 2020

They only care if they are in the headlines. Trump is in Narciscist Heaven.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
25. Yep.. She's good..
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:19 AM
Feb 2020

But you and i know that its gonna take a lot more than Rachael and Lawrence to stop these insane goons... Frightening..... cause there is no obvious immediate solution.. Insanity breeds Insanity..

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
16. They are so unprepared
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:22 AM
Feb 2020

....for the massive cyber attacks that are coming to this country. Way beyond the 2020 election.

Trump and company are going to absolutely destroy us.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
20. the most important cog in the russian ops got lung cancer and it's really fucking ridiculous media
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:48 AM
Feb 2020

missed it

when limbaugh started the lies and rationalizations every day they could count on it- now there are a few hundred ignorant racist assholes trying to fill in for a guy who in their field of lying and rationalizing was the 'genius' they could all count on to be coordinated with the GOP think tanks - - - until the russian money came in, about the time he decided not to support mccain until he picked palin

the talk radio monopoly is going to fall apart without limbaugh and democrats have to hasten it. they totally fucked up ignoring it for 30 years but now they can kill it

Dan

(3,550 posts)
22. If we elect an American President (D) in 2020
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:51 AM
Feb 2020

Then I hope we not only impose major ass breaking sanctions on Russia and totally destroy their economy, but we also target Putin for a drone strike.

Dan

(3,550 posts)
29. Yeah, you're right.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:44 AM
Feb 2020

But the other alternative is make Hillary the Sec of State, he’ll love that!!!

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
35. not to mention fascists in the GOP
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:18 AM
Feb 2020

that are smarter and more competent than Trump: Ben Sasse, Tom Cotton, Ted Cruz, etc

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
39. The problem with that is as follows:
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:54 AM
Feb 2020

I'm of the opinion that it is not the russian people that are our enemy...its their government. Given a legit free and fair election, I have a sense that Putin would be out of power (and putin knows this)....

As to the drone strike idea...I'm not personally morally opposed to it, minus the fact that it's illegal as hell. imho neither Jr, Obama, or trump should have been doing it.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
30. Did anyone have ANY doubts that this election was going to be free of Putin and GOPcheaters?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:47 AM
Feb 2020

I have been thinking it's going to be a lot worse, and if they lose, they will claim the Dems cheated and stick it in the courts.
They have something planned if they lose, don't doubt that. And it's going to be ugly.

Grasswire2

(13,568 posts)
32. How long now have I been whining about not depending on election 2020 to dump Trum?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:17 AM
Feb 2020

How many times have I quoted Mueller, Wray, Comey. Coats telling us UNDER OATH that the election is rigged "as we sit here"???

Get it now?

No one should be surprised.

lark

(23,091 posts)
37. The really scary part is Russia is also hacking the Democratic primary.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:08 AM
Feb 2020

He didn't say how they were influencing the primary and that is extremely important information. OK, they were probably working hand in glove with RNC to disrupt Iowa, but what are they doing now? Paying repugs to register as Dems to vote for the person most likely to lose to drumpf, then re-register and vote for drumpf? Are they fucking with the results? How are they attempting to ruin the Democratic primary - this is critical information and we need it. So drumpf fires the person that let out the truth, because he knows this could poissbly be used to stop Russia and he will not stand for that. He knows without Russia he loses and goes to jail and loses everything he's spent 70 years stealing.

So fucking frustrated right now!

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
45. They want a weak candidate and a divided Demcratic Party - competing cults
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:39 PM
Feb 2020

and they're just about there unless we realize democracy is being stolen from us and get a solid candidate.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
44. Dictators hang together, only democracy can defeat them
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:37 PM
Feb 2020

We don't need divisions, we need a strong mainstream message, we need a New Deal type coalition that embraces all parts of the political spectrum. My concern is our candidates are fighting one another. Joe hasn't room to tell his platform. Liz beats up on Mike. Amy scraps with Pete. Bernie rants against corporation and looks like he's in pain doing it. There's not a lot of substance there. Message. Platform. Themes. Consensus building. The media is more interested in ratings and controversy, and how many journalists they can cram onto the screen to deflect cost and increase cost/revenue sharing. Substance. Dialogue. Sit downs. They be better off to give them all 15 minutes three nights a week, twice a month.

BarbD

(1,192 posts)
48. Russia is hoping to sow chaos and panic.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:12 PM
Feb 2020

But unlike the Republicans who either shoot the messenger or put their head in the sand, we smarter and cooler Democrats know how to accept the challenge.

We know if we work together, stay in the moment we will prevail.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
50. If trump is the patriot Rush says he is
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:17 PM
Feb 2020

wouldn't he be doing something to stop it ? I know, stupid question. Stupid followers too. USA, USA, USA, USA my ass.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
54. News has always meant to me as North East West South
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:56 PM
Feb 2020

News!!! The News which really was the catalyst for my post... IS...

The facts surrounding Trumps firing of the head of our National Security Dept...and then hires the former Ambassador to Germany who has absolutely little knowledge of our National Security Dept.. ..(He was the Ambassador to Germany) No clue of National Security Issues at all.. Also he has history of hate and bigotry through the internet..

Bit of a rush here..

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