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skip fox

(19,356 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:02 AM Feb 2020

My first vote for President was in 1968: Dick Gregory!

In Wood County Ohio (Bowling Green). He was a "write-in" of course.


I tell my students (young, voting age) that they should vote for themselves. I tell them how great I felt after my first vote (I omit the particulars) and how great I still feel remembering that day.

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My first vote for President was in 1968: Dick Gregory! (Original Post) skip fox Feb 2020 OP
Shirley Chisholm. She was on the ballot. 1972 Cal. Primary Walleye Feb 2020 #1
She was remarkable. skip fox Feb 2020 #8
Excellent choice. CaptYossarian Feb 2020 #2
I was in Chicago in '68 when the Yippies promoted the pig for president. skip fox Feb 2020 #10
48 years later, we got our pig in the WH. CaptYossarian Feb 2020 #11
He would look good with an applle in his mouth! skip fox Feb 2020 #12
You'd have to fry it first to get it in there. CaptYossarian Feb 2020 #14
So, you helped elect Nixon, correct? StopTheNeoCons Feb 2020 #3
Here we go . . . skip fox Feb 2020 #4
392 votes were cast for Gregory in Ohio. Do you think it changed the outcome? onenote Feb 2020 #6
Hardly. George II Feb 2020 #9
I mean that's what it sounds like but they felt really good about it and did it for themselves..yay! UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #13
Yeah that was my first thought as well. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #23
So helping Nixon get elected makes you feel great? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #5
Voting made me feel good as the post made clear. skip fox Feb 2020 #7
A couple of folks don't know it's Friday. CaptYossarian Feb 2020 #16
Voting is not all about you Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #17
Geez. skip fox Feb 2020 #24
Still not all about you Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #25
Thing about scolds . . . skip fox Feb 2020 #27
And the problem with the self righeous Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #28
Hereafter I afford you the attention your posts skip fox Feb 2020 #30
Not surprised Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #34
How did voting for Gregory in Ohio in 1968 help get Nixon elected? onenote Feb 2020 #15
Voting for anyone other than Humphrey in 68 helped Nixon Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #18
Some people seem to like to tell other people how to think skip fox Feb 2020 #19
No it is not telling people how to feel Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #20
the difference between 2000 and 2016 v. 1968: onenote Feb 2020 #22
I was in Ketchikan, AK and first vote was for Hubert Humphrey 1968. Greybnk48 Feb 2020 #21
Talk about a name from the past. Throck Feb 2020 #26
Mine was for Mike Dukakis. maxsolomon Feb 2020 #29
1988: Jessie Jackson RGTIndy Feb 2020 #31
1976. Jimmy Carter. luvs2sing Feb 2020 #32
That was mine too MiniMe Feb 2020 #36
And how did that work out for you? tavernier Feb 2020 #33
Mine was for John Anderson. brokephibroke Feb 2020 #35
I voted for Mondale - Ferraro in 1984. BigDemVoter Feb 2020 #37

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
2. Excellent choice.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:25 AM
Feb 2020

At least we'd have a legitimate comedian in the WH, instead of wannabes like Donald Swamp.

I'm more conventional. If it was after June 6th, I would have picked Eugene McCarthy, although one of my neurons would write in Pigasus from the Yippies.

skip fox

(19,356 posts)
10. I was in Chicago in '68 when the Yippies promoted the pig for president.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:32 AM
Feb 2020

I was working for Mobilization Housing, finding accommodations for new arrivals.

Ended up bailed out of jail (Cook Co.) by my father.

onenote

(42,690 posts)
6. 392 votes were cast for Gregory in Ohio. Do you think it changed the outcome?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:47 AM
Feb 2020

Nixon only got 45.23% but he still easily defeated Humphrey, who only got 42.95%. George Wallace got almost 12%, which should tell you everything you need to know about Ohio in 1968.

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
23. Yeah that was my first thought as well.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:27 PM
Feb 2020

I’m not sure I’d be boasting about voting for the equivalent of Jill Stein or Nader as Nixon was winning the election. Totally bizarre, actually.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
16. A couple of folks don't know it's Friday.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:01 PM
Feb 2020

And they may be too young to know who the great Dick Gregory was.

Read the book, people!

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
17. Voting is not all about you
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:30 PM
Feb 2020

That is just self centered. It's a civic responsibility, not a feel good exercise. And it is the duty of every person to vote for the candidate who will best serve the country and their fellow americans otherwise you are just helping people like Nixon, Bush and Trump get elected.

skip fox

(19,356 posts)
24. Geez.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:54 PM
Feb 2020

To be responsible is to maintain your ability to respond, as Robert Duncan wrote. Following someone else's notion of responsibility does not qualify.

I was jailed in Chicago in Aug. of 1968. Friends had been killed in Vietnam. They tried to draft me into their madness.

I'm comfortable with my vote and tired of public scolds.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
25. Still not all about you
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 04:03 PM
Feb 2020

Voting is a civic duty, not a self righteous feel good exercise. That you haven't learned that in over 50 years is just sad.

onenote

(42,690 posts)
15. How did voting for Gregory in Ohio in 1968 help get Nixon elected?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:57 AM
Feb 2020

What got Nixon elected wasn't folks voting for Dick Gregory in Ohio, it was folks voting for Richard Nixon (and George Wallace) in Ohio.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
18. Voting for anyone other than Humphrey in 68 helped Nixon
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:32 PM
Feb 2020

Just as voting for anyone other than Gore in 2000 helped Bush and anyone other than Clinton in 16 helped Trump.

skip fox

(19,356 posts)
19. Some people seem to like to tell other people how to think
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:55 PM
Feb 2020

and feel even about an election 50 years ago. Does that make them feel good? Does that encourage ideological purity?

I must also point out I've been jailed twice because of my beliefs and help stall Kenneth Starr in his impeachment of Clinton.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
20. No it is not telling people how to feel
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:59 PM
Feb 2020

but asking them to take responsibility for the consequences of the actions.

onenote

(42,690 posts)
22. the difference between 2000 and 2016 v. 1968:
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:45 PM
Feb 2020

In 2000, the number of people voting for third party candidates was large enough to impact the outcome. Indeed, just the Ralph Nader votes was enough, even if all the votes for other third party candidates had gone to Bush).

In 2016, there were at least a half dozen states where Trump got less than 50 percent of the vote. In most of these, the big difference maker were votes cast for Libertarian Gary Johnson -- probably not votes that would have gone to Clinton. But in three states, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, the votes that went to Jill Stein were enough to cost Clinton those states. If she had won all three (or even just Michigan and Wisconsin), she would have won the election and so those votes helped Trump win.

In 1968, Nixon won at least 17 states in which he didn't get 50 percent of the vote. But in every one of those states, the difference maker was George Wallace. The votes cast for any other third party candidate or write in simply were insufficient to impact the outcome. They didn't help Nixon win. He would have won even if all those votes had gone to Humphrey. Indeed, Nixon lost several states because of the Wallace vote -- but it would be pure fantasy to imagine that any of the Wallace voters gave any thought to voting for Humphrey.

In short, those folks who voted for Stein or Nader need to take responsibility for the consequences of their actions. Those folks who wrote in Dick Gregory or someone else in 1968 didn't take an action that had any actual "consequences" with respect to the outcome.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
21. I was in Ketchikan, AK and first vote was for Hubert Humphrey 1968.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:10 PM
Feb 2020

By then I was 19, and was a resident of Ketchikan, so I was permitted to vote!

My boyfriend and I married earlier than we had planned (me 18, him 19) so I could go with him for four years in the military. We sped things up so much we actually married in Ketchikan, 2 months after he got there and deemed it would work!

We had a blast!

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
32. 1976. Jimmy Carter.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 04:38 PM
Feb 2020

I hadn’t been 18 for very long, but my dad made sure I got registered, and we went to the polls together. We were among the first voters that day. Afterward, we stopped at my favorite bakery and each got a pastry. Then he went to work, and I drove to my college classes an hour away. It is one of my favorite memories of times with my father. He also voted for Carter, but he wanted to know exactly why I was voting for him. He wanted to make sure I was making my own decision.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
36. That was mine too
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:13 PM
Feb 2020

They registered us im High School if we were going to gbe 18 by the next election.

tavernier

(12,376 posts)
33. And how did that work out for you?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 04:42 PM
Feb 2020

My grandson voted for a name way down the ballot in 2016 because he didn’t care for either of the two top candidates. I told him that in a national election it’s very simple and all about the math. I told him in the future if he isn’t going to vote for the top two candidates, instead of wasting his gas to go to the polls, stay home and write a fan letter to anyone else he prefers.

Because one of those top two candidates is going to win, period, and the only way his vote will make a difference is to give it to the right person.

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