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CTyankee

(67,907 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:39 AM Feb 2020

Can anyone help me? I want to copyright a title of a book I am writing. Can I copyright just a

title of something I haven't written yet? can anyone help me figure out how to get a copyright?

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Can anyone help me? I want to copyright a title of a book I am writing. Can I copyright just a (Original Post) CTyankee Feb 2020 OP
How to Copyright a Book (Legal Zoom) hlthe2b Feb 2020 #1
Write it down -- it's protected by copyright. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #2
Copyrighting the TITLE may be problematic. Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #3
You cannot copyright the title of a book. euphorb Feb 2020 #4
Your scribbling on a post-it is copyright-protected. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #6
You cannot claim copyright on just a title muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #5
How about private email? I have emailed it to my son and his wife for some ideas... CTyankee Feb 2020 #8
You want to copyright your email? muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #16
No, absolutely not. In fact my dtr in law is an editor at a publishing firm in NYC. CTyankee Feb 2020 #24
An editor and a lawyer sound like the right people to advise you, not DU (nt) muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #26
I have written several sentences which will go into the Preface and saved it on My Documents. CTyankee Feb 2020 #19
'Several sentences' does sound more substantial than 'short phrases' muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #23
Well, I didn't want to infringe on some other writer's title. Or a song title. CTyankee Feb 2020 #25
You can't infringe on copyright of a title,... Foolacious Feb 2020 #28
I googled it and found it used in a hymn in a Lutheran hymn book. CTyankee Feb 2020 #27
If you mean your title by 'it', it can't be copyrighted. muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #29
This will take some time as much research will be needed. I have started that research. CTyankee Feb 2020 #30
Color Cartoonist Feb 2020 #7
No, sadly. Titles aren't considered intellectual property, and also Mike 03 Feb 2020 #9
well, the word is beautiful but all that common so my book title might have a shot at exclusivity... CTyankee Feb 2020 #10
One thing you could do is write a treatment and copyright that, Mike 03 Feb 2020 #14
In songs you can't copyright a title - not sure about books lame54 Feb 2020 #11
My understanding is that you can't copyright a title. You can copyright an entire work. librechik Feb 2020 #12
Yah, remember packman Feb 2020 #13
I'm on it, packman! CTyankee Feb 2020 #21
If it's unique enough, you can trademark it. NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #15
Don't get cocky kid! Dr. Strange Feb 2020 #17
You cannot trademark or copyright titles obamanut2012 Feb 2020 #18
BUT - a couple of things you can do to dissuade others from using it are pnwest Feb 2020 #20
OK. My daughter in law can help me with that. Thanks! CTyankee Feb 2020 #22

euphorb

(294 posts)
4. You cannot copyright the title of a book.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:42 AM
Feb 2020

When you begin to write the book, the contents are copyrighted automatically as soon as you write it down.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
6. Your scribbling on a post-it is copyright-protected.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:47 AM
Feb 2020

Copyright begins when your work is "fixed in a tangible medium of expression and come within the subject matter of copyright".

https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap3.html

muriel_volestrangler

(105,834 posts)
5. You cannot claim copyright on just a title
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:45 AM
Feb 2020
What Is Not Protected by Copyright?
Copyright does not protect
• Ideas, procedures, methods, systems, processes, concepts, principles, or discoveries
• Works that are not fixed in a tangible form (such as a choreographic work that has not been
notated or recorded or an improvisational speech that has not been written down)
Titles, names, short phrases, and slogans
• Familiar symbols or designs
• Mere variations of typographic ornamentation, lettering, or coloring
• Mere listings of ingredients or contents
https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ01.pdf

CTyankee

(67,907 posts)
8. How about private email? I have emailed it to my son and his wife for some ideas...
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:50 AM
Feb 2020

e.g. collaboration. We should start that shortly.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,834 posts)
16. You want to copyright your email?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:15 PM
Feb 2020

Do you think there's any chance your son and daughter-in-law will try to claim it as their own, or forward it to other people who will?

CTyankee

(67,907 posts)
24. No, absolutely not. In fact my dtr in law is an editor at a publishing firm in NYC.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:42 PM
Feb 2020

She will help me out. My son is a prosecutor at the Brooklyn DA's office.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,834 posts)
23. 'Several sentences' does sound more substantial than 'short phrases'
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:40 PM
Feb 2020

Has someone already tried to pass them off as their own, or benefit from them? What is getting you worried about copyright theft at such an early stage?

Foolacious

(540 posts)
28. You can't infringe on copyright of a title,...
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:51 PM
Feb 2020

... since titles can't be copyrighted. So no worries. But as someone else posted, once you have written/composed something in any tangible form whatsoever, it is copyrighted to you. Now, PROVING that without having registered your copyright might be slightly more difficult, but with timestamps on electronic files and emails, even that is no longer much of a problem.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,834 posts)
29. If you mean your title by 'it', it can't be copyrighted.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:57 PM
Feb 2020

It's the 'several sentences' from your preface that potentially could be, but it seems a better idea to wait until you've written the whole thing before you worry. Unless you think it will leak out somehow.

CTyankee

(67,907 posts)
30. This will take some time as much research will be needed. I have started that research.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:25 PM
Feb 2020

I'd like to copyright it right away, tho. I don't want to get to the day that I get the production started and find out a big OOPS.

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
9. No, sadly. Titles aren't considered intellectual property, and also
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:01 PM
Feb 2020

you see many books with the same title.

(And sometimes movies too).

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
14. One thing you could do is write a treatment and copyright that,
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:09 PM
Feb 2020

or write it as a treatment for a screenplay, or a screenplay and register it with the Writers Guild of America. Your ultimate goal is to write a book, but you might be able to get some protection if your story is unique, and be able to present something in court if you were ripped off. You can do a "rush screenplay" that is not really meant to be perfect but to provide the general outline of scenes, with the word you want to protect. It's sort of a crap shoot whether this would hold up in court, but it someone actually steals it from you, you could prove it was yours first.

That's a bit convoluted, but it will buy you some legal protection, especially if this is an idea you are going to share, pitch or send out to publishers.

librechik

(30,955 posts)
12. My understanding is that you can't copyright a title. You can copyright an entire work.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:06 PM
Feb 2020

titles are too ubiquitous. Everyone must be able to access those. But attached to a book, it is copyrighted along with the rest of the text.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
13. Yah, remember
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:07 PM
Feb 2020

When Trump tried to copyright the phrase, "You're fired" from the show he was on - The Apprentice. Also, Google (I think) tried to copyright "You've got e-mail" and was turned down.

I would write a few short paragraphs of your book and THEN give it a title. Seems your claim to the title would have more weight then.

pnwest

(3,443 posts)
20. BUT - a couple of things you can do to dissuade others from using it are
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:23 PM
Feb 2020

to buy the domain names, and create Instagram and Facebook pages with the book's name and just put "Pending release" or something. Most people search for those things now so they can have unique domains, so if you already have the domain locked down, others will try to figure out a different title.

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