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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:20 AM Feb 2020

Fatal crash of flat-earther's steam-powered rocket caught on video: report

Published 1 min ago on February 22, 2020

By Bob Brigham

An effort to prove the earth flat reportedly failed on Saturday.

“A man died in what authorities described as a rocket crash in the desert in Barstow on Saturday afternoon,” KTLA-TV reported Saturday.

“Authorities did not identity the pilot pending positive identification by coroner’s officials. Witnesses and news reports indicted the launch was an event hosted by local daredevil ”Mad Mike Hughes, an amateur rocket builder intent on proving that the Earth is flat,” KTLA reported.

Shocking video from the event showed a rocket launch, with a parachute deployed shortly after launch. The rocket appeared to crash in the desert, launching a plume of dust.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/fatal-crash-of-flat-earthers-steam-powered-rocket-caught-on-video-report/

warning this is not a pretty video...........................

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Fatal crash of flat-earther's steam-powered rocket caught on video: report (Original Post) turbinetree Feb 2020 OP
How did he think a rocket launch would prove the Earth is flat? Jamastiene Feb 2020 #1
Their theory is that if you get to a certain height you can observe that the earth is actually not mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #2
He only got up a thousand feet or so. Just rent a Cessna 152 for a $100 discovery flight. TheBlackAdder Feb 2020 #19
Supposedly he was shooting for getting up many miles high ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #21
A homemade steam-powered rocket! 😂 TheBlackAdder Feb 2020 #22
Bound to be a trump supporter. Scotch-Irish Feb 2020 #33
Simple! All pictures/videos of the Earth curvature/sphere-cism have been doctored. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2020 #3
He shouted out: "The earth IS flat! The earth IS flat. Ow! The earth IS hard!" TheBlackAdder Feb 2020 #20
LOL!!! greytdemocrat Feb 2020 #28
Speculation. democratisphere Feb 2020 #7
Not the edge - Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #16
Apparently he didn't know how to Google dalton99a Feb 2020 #8
Yes, but camera manufaturers are in on the scam uriel1972 Feb 2020 #12
It's an optical illusion Midnightwalk Feb 2020 #25
Google is fake news! SunSeeker Feb 2020 #17
That's almost 10 years old. yonder Feb 2020 #34
He reportedly joined the flat-earthers in 2016 after Hortensis Feb 2020 #42
If this is the same guy who was doing something similar as a while back... RockRaven Feb 2020 #4
even so called "harmless" con theories uriel1972 Feb 2020 #6
Especially when they don't do anything for safety at all. Jamastiene Feb 2020 #46
+1 for "southland deserts". I am partial to "rural wastelands", myself. nt OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2020 #23
Talk about going out with a bang, lol! shanti Feb 2020 #57
Ooookay. That there looks like a bona fide Darwin Award winner! 2naSalit Feb 2020 #5
Need to die before reproducing to be a DA winner... uriel1972 Feb 2020 #10
Curses! 2naSalit Feb 2020 #13
Hughes should get an honorable mention at least. Jamastiene Feb 2020 #47
Darwin and Newton award. Lochloosa Feb 2020 #11
The last thing to pass through his mind. . . TheBlackAdder Feb 2020 #18
... Lochloosa Feb 2020 #51
Its a sad end to a life, but not unexpected given the choices. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #9
I don't think that's what they mean by flat earth. MissB Feb 2020 #14
My favorite description ChazInAz Feb 2020 #15
"I don't believe in science..." Eugene Feb 2020 #24
I don't get how a rocket proves the earth is flat? dawg day Feb 2020 #26
He wanted to fly very high and take pictures jmowreader Feb 2020 #58
Thanks for the info. That sounds like the dumbest thing ever... why not just go up in an airplane? dawg day Feb 2020 #60
But did he go far enough to see Great A'Tuin?? Docreed2003 Feb 2020 #27
The Wrong Stuff. edbermac Feb 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author yonder Feb 2020 #36
He dedicated a previous launch the Orange Anus himself. John Fante Feb 2020 #30
Bonus. n/t Jamastiene Feb 2020 #44
Maybe people who don't believe in science are better off not building rockets... jcgoldie Feb 2020 #31
Link to video at Twitter to bypass rawstory crap Roland99 Feb 2020 #32
Play REALLY stupid games, win appropriate prizes. Maru Kitteh Feb 2020 #35
Wow. If it was ever ok to laugh about somebody dieing, now would be the time. Captain Stern Feb 2020 #37
Here's what was supposed to happen intrepidity Feb 2020 #38
A clown show? UpInArms Feb 2020 #43
The argument between the two guys right before the launch about Jamastiene Feb 2020 #48
Darwin's Theory nt Raine Feb 2020 #39
What was he planning on doing about it, if the earth was flat? yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2020 #40
Acme Rocket Company trusty elf Feb 2020 #41
I'm going to hell onethatcares Feb 2020 #45
I will be right there with you. Jamastiene Feb 2020 #50
Some flat eathers on YouTube are already saying Jamastiene Feb 2020 #49
Yeah, just like they went running after the crash to help. Not. elias7 Feb 2020 #52
You can see the curve standing at the beach. Baked Potato Feb 2020 #53
And another take on it. Igel Feb 2020 #54
They could talk to multiple people who flew on a Concorde and looked out a WINDOW..... Bengus81 Feb 2020 #55
Made me think of this: cloudbase Feb 2020 #56
"I fought the law of gravity, and the law won" struggle4progress Feb 2020 #59
One less fool dustyscamp Feb 2020 #61
Flat-earthers all over the globe are mourning his loss Blue Owl Feb 2020 #62
How did he get FAA approval for this? krispos42 Feb 2020 #63
And of course all the flat-earthers will see a conspiracy here. n/t X_Digger Feb 2020 #64

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
1. How did he think a rocket launch would prove the Earth is flat?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:27 AM
Feb 2020

Maybe, I should not ask. If he thinks the Earth is flat, his reasoning abilities are obviously not that great in the first place. I still don't get how how he thinks launching a rocket proves the Earth is flat?

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. Their theory is that if you get to a certain height you can observe that the earth is actually not
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:32 AM
Feb 2020

curved (in the way it's claimed to be).

They have all this math worked out for it ... he wanted to go up and take pictures from that height to prove it.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
7. Speculation.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:38 AM
Feb 2020

This idiot thought if he got high enough off the ground, he would be able to see the edge of the flat Earth. Had to be a dumb arse drumpflicon.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
16. Not the edge -
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:31 AM
Feb 2020

but the lack of curvature. His plan was to go high enough that he should be able to see the curve if the earth is a sphere. He was going to take pictures of the absence of the curvature to prove the earth was flat

dalton99a

(81,485 posts)
8. Apparently he didn't know how to Google
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:39 AM
Feb 2020
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/balloon-camera-duct-tape-shoot-earth-pictures-space/story?id=10210658
Hobbyist Shoots Earth From Edge of Space With Used Camera From eBay
British inventor launches weather balloons 20 miles above earth.
By NED POTTER
March 26, 2010, 10:47 AM

March 26, 2010 — -- A typical space shuttle mission flies 200 miles above the earth's surface and returns beautiful pictures on the way, but it involves 1,500 people, puts six or seven astronauts at risk and costs, depending on who's doing the counting, close to half a billion dollars.

Robert Harrison got some pretty good pictures too. He did it with a weather balloon, a used digital camera he picked up on eBay and some duct tape.

"I thought I was going to get some nice pictures," said Harrison, a computer engineer from the British town of Highburton, West Yorkshire, "but I didn't realize I'd see the curvature of the earth, the blue band of the atmosphere and the blackness of space."

His camera rises to altitudes of about 20 miles over the English countryside. The price per flight: about $750.

...

"I know now for a fact," he joked, "that the earth is round."

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
25. It's an optical illusion
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:24 AM
Feb 2020

They purposely use cameras with curved lenses. Obviously that makes distant objects appear curved.

Check mate.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
42. He reportedly joined the flat-earthers in 2016 after
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 08:14 AM
Feb 2020

he raised only $300 or so in a fundraising attempt. Their booster was about $7k+. And it appropriately earned him headline obituaries portraying him as trying to prove the earth was flat.

Hughes was scheduled to launch his homemade rocket for a new Science Channel series called "Homemade Astronauts," according to the Discovery Channel website.


Crashing out first means he also won't be running for governor of California. California's loss, not just home rocket enthusiasts.

RIP.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
4. If this is the same guy who was doing something similar as a while back...
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:35 AM
Feb 2020

I remember reading/hearing that he didn't start out as a flat-earther and proceed to amateur rocketry. He started out as a daredevil/amateur rocketeer in need of an audience and income, and realized that flat-eartherism was fertile ground for crowd-sourcing his gimmicks/stunts. Absent genuine flat-earthers and "I'm doing it ironically"-types, he would not have had the funds to build his garbage death-machine.

But I don't discount that there are more than one of these guys in the southland deserts, so maybe I'm thinking of another person. In either case, when people say "what's the harm?" about dumb shit like flat-eartherism, point them this way.

I'm sad for the people who cared about him and will miss him.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
46. Especially when they don't do anything for safety at all.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 08:48 AM
Feb 2020

Video footage of this guy from a few years ago show him launching without so much as a helmet on. That wasn't smart.

2naSalit

(86,594 posts)
5. Ooookay. That there looks like a bona fide Darwin Award winner!
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:36 AM
Feb 2020

I know a couple flat earthers, nice people, keep my distance.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
10. Need to die before reproducing to be a DA winner...
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:44 AM
Feb 2020

Gallow's humour has begun to fail for me these days. I even care about my enemies too much let alone my friends, family and communities

ChazInAz

(2,568 posts)
15. My favorite description
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:08 AM
Feb 2020

In Ambrose Bierce's "Curried Cow" he mentions the handiwork of a particularly obstreperous kicking cow. "Gad! You couldn't have spread the old lady thinner with a trowel!"

Eugene

(61,887 posts)
24. "I don't believe in science..."
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:06 AM
Feb 2020
“I don’t believe in science,” declared the 61-year-old. “I know about aerodynamics and fluid dynamics and how things move through the air. But that’s not science, that’s just a formula.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/22/self-taught-rocket-scientist-plans-launch-to-test-flat-earth-theory

I'll admit that I underestimated his determined stupidity.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
26. I don't get how a rocket proves the earth is flat?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:30 AM
Feb 2020

If he wanted to disprove gravity, maybe....

I always assumed most flat-earthers were really joking. But this guy died for his belief.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
58. He wanted to fly very high and take pictures
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:06 PM
Feb 2020

His first attempt a few years ago got him 1800 feet of elevation, which is too low to see curvature.

This time looked like only a couple hundred feet.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
60. Thanks for the info. That sounds like the dumbest thing ever... why not just go up in an airplane?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 04:21 PM
Feb 2020

Maybe he didn't believe that airplanes are really flying?

I'm sorry for his family. This is an example of how "belief" can be self-destructive, I guess.

Response to edbermac (Reply #29)

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
37. Wow. If it was ever ok to laugh about somebody dieing, now would be the time.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 05:28 AM
Feb 2020

I said IF, dammit.

I didn't say I thought it was ok to laugh.

I was throwing out a hypothetical situation.

I didn't laugh about this story at all. Because that would be wrong.

intrepidity

(7,295 posts)
38. Here's what was supposed to happen
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 05:37 AM
Feb 2020

Even with everything going perfectly, that landing was rough (skip to 27 mins in to see)

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
48. The argument between the two guys right before the launch about
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 08:53 AM
Feb 2020

what is and is not "family friendly" is hilarious.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
45. I'm going to hell
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 08:41 AM
Feb 2020

but I'm still laughing at that.

Sadly, he was next in line for the orangeanus budget director. He was going to prove once and for all that supply side economics works.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
54. And another take on it.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:05 PM
Feb 2020
https://www.space.com/daredevil-mad-mike-hughes-dies-in-homemade-rocket-launch.html

Part of a competition. And he denied that his 2019 attempt was based on seeking to proof flat-Eartherism. But in an attempt to ascertain the "real truth" (tm) we don't need the bits that don't fit.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
55. They could talk to multiple people who flew on a Concorde and looked out a WINDOW.....
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:25 PM
Feb 2020

That YES Virginia the damn Earth does curve. But...I know,all of those Concorde riders would have been part of a vast conspiracy to convince the rest of us that the World isn't flat.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
63. How did he get FAA approval for this?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:51 PM
Feb 2020

Also, I'm waiting for the flat earthers to start a conspiracy that the Air Force shot him down with stealth fighters to keep him from exposing the truth.

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