Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:56 AM

Odoreida (1,549 posts)

We CAN afford "Medicare for all" but ...

... but not unless we give up being World Cop.

I'm all for it.

But we will have to choose. Nobody can afford both.

We already know what Republicans choose.
When Republicans say we can't afford it, this is what really is going on.
They don't even think of themselves as lying, they just take being World Cop as a given.

What about Democrats? Still room for peaceniks in this party?

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8 replies	Author	Time	Post
We CAN afford "Medicare for all" but ... (Original post)	Odoreida	Feb 2020	OP
we dont get dental with medicare for all...i would STILL have to buy a supplement..	samnsara	Feb 2020	#1
You would get dental included	area51	Feb 2020	#8
We're already not affording a way worse system, so we could go to single payer, waste less money	brewens	Feb 2020	#2
You always hear	moondust	Feb 2020	#3
This	edhopper	Feb 2020	#4
No need to ask then, we already know ...	Odoreida	Feb 2020	#5
It's not either/or at all.	Disaffected	Feb 2020	#6
Exactly	Calculating	Feb 2020	#7

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Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:58 AM

samnsara (15,917 posts)

1. we dont get dental with medicare for all...i would STILL have to buy a supplement..

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Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:36 PM

area51 (10,069 posts)

8. You would get dental included

with Medicare for All.

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Sun Feb 23, 2020, 10:20 AM

brewens (11,345 posts)

2. We're already not affording a way worse system, so we could go to single payer, waste less money

and still flush hundreds of billions into the DOD cesspool. I'd rather we had a good national health care plan and cut way back on the military.

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Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:52 AM

moondust (18,235 posts)

3. You always hear

the gotcha question: "How you gonna pay for it?"

Simple answer:

"We'll ask the civilized world how they do it and see if that might even work here in the 'richest nation on Earth'."

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Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:57 AM

edhopper (28,990 posts)

4. This

Put another way, they ask: "How can we afford a cheaper system."

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Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:58 AM

Odoreida (1,549 posts)

5. No need to ask then, we already know ...

They are not paying to police the world.

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Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:55 PM

Disaffected (2,628 posts)

6. It's not either/or at all.

Simply reallocate what is being spend now (or actually less) to MFA instead of HMOs and all the attendant overhead. It would put a lot of insurance company execs, lawyers and bean-counters out of work but that seems a small price to pay.

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Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:06 PM

Calculating (2,348 posts)

7. Exactly

We spend more on our military than the next 8-10 nations COMBINED. That is RIDICULOUS, and the reason why we can't have nice things like universal healthcare or help students pay off debt. Gotta 'keep the peace' in the middle east forever with no end, what a use of our money. Screw it, we need to take care of our own country. Let the world figure out their own shit.

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