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Somebody sent this to me, and asked me to share it, around. Ummmm....... Ok......... (Original Post) Siwsan Feb 2020 OP
Melania has a truck? Croney Feb 2020 #1
I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything - you'd owe me a new keyboard!!!! Siwsan Feb 2020 #4
Ha mountain grammy Feb 2020 #27
Recommended. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #2
What is ISO? BigmanPigman Feb 2020 #3
I'm assuming "In Search Of" Siwsan Feb 2020 #6
In search of Danmel Feb 2020 #7
In Search Of n/t rufus dog Feb 2020 #8
In search of, I suspect. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #9
Glad you asked. I thought "International Standards Organization". JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2020 #41
That would have been the smart move but judging from BigmanPigman Feb 2020 #42
You really shouldn't post a phone number. rzemanfl Feb 2020 #5
The needer of the kidney is driving around with it so it's out there, everywhere Siwsan Feb 2020 #10
"Someone else did it first" doesn't make it okay in my opinion. rzemanfl Feb 2020 #14
Umm. Somehow the trump* sticker makes me thing they aren't a Democrat Siwsan Feb 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author SCantiGOP Feb 2020 #18
They did it first, someone else put it on the net. Think of your number on Free Republic. rzemanfl Feb 2020 #21
People in need of organs - who may die on the waiting list - Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #22
That is a valid point. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #24
And isn't it tragic, that in this country Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2020 #30
Insurance & profits have little to do with it. Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #31
Thank you for your post. Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2020 #39
It is a factor - but the biggest significance is when you are trying to be a live donor. Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #43
If 55 is the cut-off, Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2020 #44
The cutoff varies by center (and perhaps by organ) Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #45
Maybe truck driver needs to get fellow Trump supporters... mwooldri Feb 2020 #11
That is in Oklahoma. nt avebury Feb 2020 #12
This might narrow it down- rzemanfl Feb 2020 #16
The 918 area code is in the NE/E part avebury Feb 2020 #20
Specifically Pryor. Different Drummer Feb 2020 #26
Northeast part of the state, probably Tulsa. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #19
Might as well say: ISO Brain aeromanKC Feb 2020 #13
LOL! DeminPennswoods Feb 2020 #15
Have you ever been around someone in need of an organ? Ms. Toad Feb 2020 #23
Does anyone here have Trump supporting relatives? Sea Turtle Feb 2020 #25
Should say Please help I need a kidney or something with HELP to get more attention but good luck lunasun Feb 2020 #28
That's stupid in multiple ways Bayard Feb 2020 #29
I had that very thought. Siwsan Feb 2020 #32
My sister was on Medicaid Bayard Feb 2020 #33
I have a cousin who is undergoing dialysis Siwsan Feb 2020 #34
I hope they find the kidney. Human being first irisblue Feb 2020 #35
I would think there HAS to be a better way, than this Siwsan Feb 2020 #36
I have seen similar in the past irisblue Feb 2020 #37
I think it would be neat if this publication on DU is the thing that resulted in a found kidney. nt LAS14 Feb 2020 #38
yes RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #40

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
41. Glad you asked. I thought "International Standards Organization".
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 07:30 PM
Feb 2020

But that made no sense.

You'd think if someone was displaying that, they'd specify O+ or O-.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
42. That would have been the smart move but judging from
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:48 PM
Feb 2020

his POTUS choice I doubt he is the brightest bulb in the pack.

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
10. The needer of the kidney is driving around with it so it's out there, everywhere
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:15 PM
Feb 2020

Not just on the roads, but on the web.

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
14. "Someone else did it first" doesn't make it okay in my opinion.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:23 PM
Feb 2020

The person who needs the kidney may be a parent, sibling or child of the truck driver. They could even be a Democrat.

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
17. Umm. Somehow the trump* sticker makes me thing they aren't a Democrat
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:26 PM
Feb 2020

And, again, they are driving around with this, so THEY did it first. I'm really confused by, but certainly respect your objection.

Response to Siwsan (Reply #17)

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
21. They did it first, someone else put it on the net. Think of your number on Free Republic.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:40 PM
Feb 2020

To me it is like obscuring license plates in photos even if the car is covered in right-wing crap. That's just my opinion, thank you for respecting it.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
22. People in need of organs - who may die on the waiting list -
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:40 PM
Feb 2020

often use public media and other means to reach people who might be live donrs because there are not enough cadaver kidneys (or any other organs) available.

On average:
* Over 3,000 new patients are added to the kidney waiting list each month.
* 13 people die each day while waiting for a life-saving kidney transplantt.
* Every 14 minutes someone is added to the kidney transplant list.
* In 2014, 4,761 patients died while waiting for a kidney transplant. Another, 3,668 people became too sick to receive a kidney transplant.


https://www.kidney.org/news/newsroom/factsheets/Organ-Donation-and-Transplantation-Stats

When people take drastic measures like this, they - or a loved one - are at risk of dying if they do not find an organ. They WANT the number pulicized.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
30. And isn't it tragic, that in this country
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 12:53 AM
Feb 2020

people can be rejected for organ transplant by their insurance companies for minor issues ?

We have taken a giant step backwards in organ donation/transplant in this nation because of PROFIT'S BOTTOM LINE..

This speaks to desperation. Instead of criticizing someone's attempt to save the life of another, do some research on organ donors and transplant surgeries and the insurance cluster-fuck in this country and advocate for change.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
31. Insurance & profits have little to do with it.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:44 AM
Feb 2020

The primary problem is a shortage of organs. Most people who need a transplant are eligible for medicaid based on disability.

"minor" issues are generally not minor, when it comes to choosing which few (among the many who need them) receive the gift of life. In order to be eligible, you have to demonstrate that you will have the ability to care for that organ. That means being medically compliant (because failure to do so will result in the organ being rejected) and having the means to pay for the anti-rejection drugs (either medicaid, or private insurance - which is the role insurance plays - but none of my more-than-a dozen friends (regardless of income) have been rejected for an organ based on lack of access to insurance or other ability to pay.

The other "minor" issues that people complain about are use of marijuana (medical or otherwise), or the need to be alcohol free for 6 months to a year, or other things that demonstrate an unwillingness or inability to follow the rules. Keeping an organ alive that was not originally part of your body is a delicate dance. It requires rigid compliance to a medical regimen for the rest of your life. If you cannot comply with medical guidelines when you are near death and most motivated to do whatever is necessary, there is little chance you will be more compliant after you have the organ. Then the organ will be destroyed and potentially two people will die - the person who received the organ, and the one who would have received it. I know it seems picky - but until there are more organs available than people who need them - there has to be a means of sorting. Sorting based on the willingness to comply with medical orders and once that threshold is crossed - who ever is sickest and closest - is a lot better than giving it to the highest bider.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
39. Thank you for your post.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:08 PM
Feb 2020

I knew very little about this. I am an organ donor, but at my age, I doubt that my organs are in the best condition for transplant. I'm not a smoker, not much of a drinker anymore, never been a druggie and am probably in better physical shape than most people my age, but AGE is a big factor, isn't it ?

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
43. It is a factor - but the biggest significance is when you are trying to be a live donor.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:10 AM
Feb 2020

Live donors for kidneys and livers are capped at 55-ish (it depends on the transplant center). The limit is because a live donor transplant takes a healthy patient and creates a sicker one (temporarily). There are risks associate with the surgery, so they have to put a cap on the age of the live donor to protect the donor.

With a deceased donor, they don't have to worry about risk to the donor - and the organs themselves are viable at a much older age than the cut-off for live donation. Whether the organ is good for transplant is a decision that will be made at the time. Even less than perfect organs may still be used for transplant under some circumstances. For example, a liver from a person who is HIV+ can be transplanted into a person who is also HIV+ (even though it would not be offered to a HIV- person). They are also offering less than perfect organs to people who might otherwise die on the wait list (e.g. Hep C positive organs - since hepatitis C can be treated now).

So - there's no harm in being an organ donor. They will use what they can, and they are able to use more and more as they are finding out how to overcome barriers that destined some organs for the trash bin in the past.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
44. If 55 is the cut-off,
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:16 AM
Feb 2020

I guess I'll have more success being a donor when I'm not using my organs anymore.

I know that they are doing amazing things with skin transplants (for burn victims) and my skin is in great shape. So, maybe they can harvest that when I'm gone.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
45. The cutoff varies by center (and perhaps by organ)
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:26 AM
Feb 2020

Since my daugher will ultimately need a liver (but not before I aged out of being a live donor), I volunteered to be tested to be a live donor for a friend of ours - the cutoff at that center for live liver donors was 55. I know of people who have donated as old as 60 for livers.

Thank you, by the way, for being a donor!

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
11. Maybe truck driver needs to get fellow Trump supporters...
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:15 PM
Feb 2020

... to sign up for TrumpCare.

Given that the Trump Party's platform on healthcare is to repeal the ACA and replace it with what amounts to vapourware - something like Trump University or Trump Steaks or Trump Air - and if enough Trumpists sign up and take part in TrumpCare... that might increase the supply of kidneys. Sadly.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
20. The 918 area code is in the NE/E part
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:34 PM
Feb 2020

of Oklahoma. Even numbered interstates run East-West and odf numbered interstates run North-South. Strangely enough while I44 is considered E-W, geographically it runs from NE OK kind of in a SW direction.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
23. Have you ever been around someone in need of an organ?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:45 PM
Feb 2020

I have dozens of friends who have had transplants - and a handful who have died waiting. It is not pretty. (My daughter has a rare liver disease that will ultimately require a transplant - perhaps more than one. The friends are others with the same rare disease.)

There are not enough cadaver organs around to save all those who need a transplant - so people resort to lots of unorthodox means to find someone who is willing to be a live donor, becase the alternative is death.

Sea Turtle

(69 posts)
25. Does anyone here have Trump supporting relatives?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 09:49 PM
Feb 2020

Lots of people have Trump supporting relatives. Some of those relatives may even actually love their Democrat children, parents, nieces, or nephews and so forth. Certainly the person needing a kidney just might be a Trump supporter.

The thing is, we really don’t know one way or another. It never gives me pleasure to watch anyone die a horrible death. I certainly never cheer either when someone is executed on death row even though there is a good chance they are a terrible person. I would rather see them in prison for life without parole. If for some reason the justice system got it wrong, there is a chance to sort of make it right. If they are dead, nor so much. Life is a precious thing. Anyway, we don’t get to pick our relatives, so we don’t know if the person facing death due failed kidneys swing right or left.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
28. Should say Please help I need a kidney or something with HELP to get more attention but good luck
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 10:00 PM
Feb 2020

it depends where you live and can take years to match unfortunately
I’d take my political sticker off to increase my chances and not offend, but then again it’s a trump supporter so

Bayard

(22,063 posts)
29. That's stupid in multiple ways
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 12:33 AM
Feb 2020

Many years ago, I gave my diabetic sister a kidney. I spent a week in the hospital getting every kind of test imaginable for compatibility (the tests were way worse than the surgery). Its a lot more than just blood type.

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
32. I had that very thought.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:49 AM
Feb 2020

The screening process must be very expensive. And, I wondered who carries the cost of the whole surgery? Is it 100% the recipient's insurance or does the donor's insurance cover half of the process? That would also have a massive impact on who is going to be in a position to even consider offering an organ to a complete stranger. Not to mention the expense of the prep and recovery time for the donor.

Let's add in the time and expense of screening though the phone calls. Hopefully that phone number is to a "burner" phone.

And, btw, I think you are a wonderful person to have given your sister such a gift of life.

Bayard

(22,063 posts)
33. My sister was on Medicaid
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:45 AM
Feb 2020

And they paid all of it. My insurance company at the time got a bill for $100K+ (we're talking 30 years ago), and totally freaked out, until the mistake was rectified.

It gave her an extra 30 yrs of life. My other Type 1 sister had to go through 3 cadaver kidneys. Its a horrible, horrible disease. They both eventually died from total organ failure, as multiple amputees.

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
34. I have a cousin who is undergoing dialysis
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:17 PM
Feb 2020

He spiraled into a devastating case of diabetes after he ignored all of the warnings coming from his doctor. He kept on smoking, drinking and eating whatever he liked, and has twice (that I know of) gone into kidney failure. For a while he was convinced that a shot of vodka, per day, would be the solution to all of his problems. And, no, I have absolutely no idea where he came up with that one.

He's in his mid 70's, now, has a myriad of other health issues, so he is basically treading life's waters until he finally shuts down. I keep waiting for that phone call from his sister.

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
36. I would think there HAS to be a better way, than this
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:26 PM
Feb 2020

Maybe desperate needs spawn desperate measures but can you even begin to imagine the screening process of calls that DO come in? And I mean screening out the kooks and finding people actually even remotely qualified. And how many of those who meet criteria would throw a monetary component into the mix.

I almost wonder if it isn't just some sort of socio/psychological experiment being conducted by some PhD candidate. Seeing how many responses they'd get to a charitable plea from a trump* supporter.

Actually, that would be a pretty good study.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
38. I think it would be neat if this publication on DU is the thing that resulted in a found kidney. nt
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:58 PM
Feb 2020
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