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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:20 AM Feb 2020

The country is of two separate worlds. It is as if we speak separate

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languages. Trump and the GOP have so put such a false narrative (and narratives) in their base's minds that when Democrats talk to Republicans they hear something different than was said - they laugh or get angry. Every discussian is a trump loyalty test. There is suddenly meaning in the narrative and it is compelling of all sort of behaviour. The geography inside both sides' heads is totally different. We picture things differently. When republicans talk to Democrats, Democrats are appauled at the lack of discernable reality.

When i fell for the conman's shit in Nov. 1995, i stopped writing in my diary pretty much. It was really weird that i did that because it was such an emotional and bewildering time when he fooled me fot 6 weeks straight and sent me on a 'trip'. I didn't write in my diary for almost a month after that as i got over the trip and bewildered some more. When i began to really figure it out, I was attacked and went into shock i started writing again. I guess i mean that when you are in a cult you are floating. You are not reality testing judiciously yourself like normal. The conman is generating the bullshit that compells you and directing it your way. It becomes a wave that lifts you up and carries you.

So these Trump voters are not self reflecting. They are riding the Trump narrative like it is a wave and they are surfers. Nothing else going on but staying on that wave and bonding and sharing with like people to make it so. Who can knock them off so they start looking around and start discerning judiciously again?

Russia is a hoax they say. I bet Russia will help Trump by not interfering in any way that can be proven. Then 'russia is a hoax' will seem doubly true. Do we write catchy memes that give the stats on what middle class life is like under Putin? A list of stats might work. We could make 'what will life be like under Putin/Trump?' an ongoing soap opera. Maybe anonymous russians could make statements.

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The country is of two separate worlds. It is as if we speak separate (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2020 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author James48 Feb 2020 #1
I don't understand the Nov. 1995 ref, apple. Mc Mike Feb 2020 #2
I guess i mean that when you are in a cult you are floating. You are not reality applegrove Feb 2020 #3
Saw that in the footage of crowds at Hitler's speeches. Mc Mike Feb 2020 #4

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Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
2. I don't understand the Nov. 1995 ref, apple.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:51 AM
Feb 2020

One thing I can observe is that shithead puts his loyalists through some crazy stuff at his rallies, tells them long boring stupid stories, tells them crazy stuff like 'you need ID to go grocery shopping', slurs and mispronounces words a lot. So that spooks some of the less crazy and unreasonable people in the middle.

Also, I've been wearing a Dump tRump pin everywhere for the last several years. Comments run 30 to 1 in favor of the sentiment. People who don't agree with it still know that is where the conversation starts, so I don't have to hear their viewpoint or loyalty tests.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
3. I guess i mean that when you are in a cult you are floating. You are not reality
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
Feb 2020

testing judiciously yourself like normal. The conman is generating the bullshit that compells you and directing it your way. It becomes a wave that lifts you up and carries you.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
4. Saw that in the footage of crowds at Hitler's speeches.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 09:12 AM
Feb 2020

Wife 1 said that shitler kept a copy of hitler's speeches on his bedside table.

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