Why the People of India walked out

[malaise]

The Holey Moran Emperor went all the way to India to tell people in their own country that every Indian village has (he actually said have) electricity and internet, thanks to Modi's govt.

While Modi has focused on rural electrification, every single person in India knows that is bullshit including those in the slums that were walled off for the visit. What's more they know enough about Indian history to be aware of who gave them electricity and the internet and they are also aware than many parts of India have neither.

He's an arrogant. ignorant fool.

[lpbk2713]

1. The Indian people like movies.

Maybe they saw "Outlaw Josie Wales".

Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.

[malaise]

2. They like Bollywood movies

but I see what you did there - nicely played.

We had a cinema in the city where the bad boys used to line up to see American Westerns. As genuine patronage declined men would claim ownership of an entire row of seats, complete with a coal pot for cooking.
I have been reliably informed what when Jose Wales or Clint Eastwood were shooting on screen, men would return fire with live rounds. It was a very 'holey' screen.

[True Blue American]

3. LOL!

[3Hotdogs]

6. Theater, Millburn, N.J. Starfleet dateline, approximately 1980.

Pre-feature bullshit is on the screen, trailers and so forth. Then comes a cartoon image of a garbage can receptacle. Narration as well as I can recall:

"Hello, I'm Herbie, your lobby trash can. Don't throw your trash on the floor. Give it to me."

With that, Herbie's garbage can mouth opens up wide.

Followed by, People in the audience stood up and began throwing candy, soda and shit at the screen.

That was clearly better than any movie I saw that night because I remember Herbie but I don't remember the movie.

[malaise]

8. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I'd pay to see this

Too good

[3Hotdogs]

30. Screen had stains on it for a couple of years.

This was a large, pre-multiplex screens. Pretty expensive to replace. I never saw Herbie again. I always wondered where he went to.

[malaise]

31. The lobby?

[3Hotdogs]

34. Nah, the cartoon.

[pangaia]

38. LOLOL

[homegirl]

62. Thank you for the first belly laugh of the day.

I remember dish night at the local movie. Guys always waited for crucial moments to knock the ladies dishes to the floor. Was this just a NYC thing?

[3Hotdogs]

64. I thought dish night was a depression era thing.

Not that you couldn't be that old and be on D.U.

[homegirl]

68. I am that rare long lived

animal- A DEPRESSION BABY. And dish night did extend into the early 1950's.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

13. I think Bollywood is awesome.

[malaise]

14. Same here

I've watched many Indian movies

[malaise]

21. They like movies but they worship their cricketers

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213013132

[lpbk2713]

37. I'm glad he looked like a jerk.

It must have made him feel right at home.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

4. I read an article about

How shitgibbon can't deal with "unfamiliar foods" and that he never eats vegetables. They are worried because in India cows are not used for food and beef is off the menu.
Trumpy eats like a spoiled child.
Steak with mini ketchup bottles.
Who the fuck wants flavorless dry
well done steak slathered in ketchup.

Apparently orange asshole eats junk food,meatloaf, steak and I am surprised his arteries are not sealed shut from what he eats.

I don't remember where I found this article. Have to spend some time to find it when I do I'll put up the link

[malaise]

5. Ha

By the way my Indian friends are telling me that Modi was sweating like Rafa Nadal when the Con lied about the unemployment figures since unemployment in India under Modi is at a 50 year high.

50% India's working-age population out of labour force, says report. The labour force participation rate stood at 49.8% in 2017-18, falling sharply from 55.9% in 2011-12. ... A few days ago, Business Standard leaked the survey and reported that India's unemployment rate had risen to a 45-year high during 2017-2018

[Raven]

9. Trump even lies for another liar. n/t

[malaise]

11. Well he is stark raving mad

so I have no expectations about anything he says

[DonaldsRump]

52. Sweating like Rafael Nadal!

Trump and Rafa couldn't be more different, but I can see the image well!

Dripping with sweat and

[malaise]

53. I'm the biggest Rafa fan on the planet

and it is true Rafa is a generous and kind human being but I wanted to describe how much Modi was sweating.

[LisaM]

58. Hey! I'm the biggest Rafa fan on the planet!

OK, we can be tied.

[malaise]

59. Hehehehe

[SergeStorms]

63. Trump is used to everyone believing his lies.

I guess he figures his serial lying is transferable to anywhere in the world. India's population loves gold as well (for those who can afford it), so he probably feels right at home.

[smirkymonkey]

7. It annoys me to no end when grown adults are that picky and obnoxious about what

the will and will not eat. We all have certain foods we don't like or won't eat, but that is taking it to an extreme. It's how a child would eat.

[malaise]

10. I gave up red meat and pork in 1979

but I never insult my hosts. I just avoid the meat and eat other stuff that they serve.

[wnylib]

24. I have multiple food allergies,

and also need to avoid high cholesterol foods and a few that interfere with a medication. I try to avoid mentioning food limitations when eating awsy from home. Do not want to make hosts feel uncomfortable or obligated to provide safe alternatives. Also do not want my limitations to become a focus of well-meaning but ill-informed remedies and suggestions.

There is nearly always something I can eat. The problem comes when someone comments on my limited selections and rudely targets me as a finicky eater, then pushes me to "just try" something that I know would make me seriously ill.

I do not mention allergies for my own safety sake. I have been the victim of skeptics who think allergies are psychosomatic and slipped an allergic food into a sauce or dip without telling me, to "prove" that allergies are not real. One apologized profusely when I had such a severe reaction that I had to leave. "I thought it wouldn't hurt you if you didn't know about it." Never ate anything around her after that. And learned to avoid mentioning allergies as a reason for avoiding something.

[malaise]

26. An acquaintance of mine once commented on what was on my plate

and my response was that granny always told us that it was rude to watch other folks' plates. She STFU.

[wnylib]

29. Thanks. I will use that in the future.

[irisblue]

55. Impressive that you still interact with someone who tried to hurt you

[wnylib]

56. Not by choice. She worked

with my husband. The allergy event occurred at a party she hosted in her home for people she worked with. She was also present at other company events that included spouses.

Her action was not a deliberate attempt to hurt me. It came from ignorance about allergies which is all too common, even among some medical people.

It used to be standard belief that allergies are psychological rather than physical in origin. Also was a common belief that they were no more than a slight discomfort of runny nose and sneezing, like a cold.

With the increase in medical transplants, we know more about the physical workings of the immune system today. Emotional factors can exacerbate an existing allergy and asthma, because adrenal glands are involved, but emotions or psychology are NOT the cause. And there are many reactions besides hay fever. I have had two anaphylactic reactions in my life, both caused by doctors who took patronizing attitudes toward my allergies.

I definitely did not interact with either doctor again. Did not sue either, but later thought I should have. I now have a typed list of allergens and the reactions they cause for when I need to see a new doctor. At the bottom of the page is a warning statement that the allergies are very real and I WILL sue if there are any consequences from not taking them seriously.

[catchnrelease]

61. It's no joke for sure

My best friend of like 30 years had many food allergies and they brought on REAL reactions. She was pretty diligent about checking out food for things like almonds that were diced and not easily recognized. Or asking if something was cooked in peanut oil, etc etc. More than once we had to go to an ER because of something that was in her meal that she didn't know about. She would have anything from just hives or swollen lips or itching palms to swelling tongue/throat. Thankfully she never had a serious life threatening reaction. But I always had some benedryl in my purse and glove compartment to give her time to get to a dr just in case it was needed.

[wnylib]

65. Swollen tongue and throat

are associated with life threatening anaphylactic shock. Anyone who has those symptoms from exposure to an allergen is at risk of anaphylaxis in future exposures. In case of anaphylaxis, Benedryl or other antihistamines are not recommended. Not sure why, but everything I have read about it says they could do more harm than good with that type of reaction. The recommended response is immediate hospital treatment for epinephrine (adrenaline) shots and observation. There is a short window of 30 minutes to reverse the reaction to prevent death. That's why having an epi pen for those reactions is important, but a hospital visit is still necessary even after using the epi pen. They are very expensive, too.

In my case, I was already in the doctor's office when his lab tech noticed my reaction and yelled out for him. Took 3 shots and a couple hours observation before I could leave the office.

[catchnrelease]

67. Yes

She/we knew the dangers and she always went to er if things seemed to be progressing. There were times when she would just have a few hives or itchy hands or arm pits and it never got worse than that. She could tell when it was going to keep going. When I said she 'only' had swollen tongue etc, I didn't mean that it actually got that far without her going in. And if I remember right, at that time it was recommended to her to take benedryl to slow reactions until she could get to hospital. These episodes that I was around for were between like 1980 (when I met her) and early 1990s, after those years I think she was so careful that she was able to avoid any of her forbidden foods, because there were no hospital incidents after that time.

She never had an epi pen and I can't say why. One of my grandsons carries an epi-pen for bee sting allergy and yes, they are expensive!

Sounds like your incident was really bad! Scary!

[wnylib]

69. Scary, yes, due to the negligence

of an allergist I went to for tests after a serious asthma attack. The doc was very skeptical about the number of things I suspected and the various reactions I reported. At one point he actually rolled his eyes and said, "Really?" He thought I was a hyochondriac.

He ran his office like a mill. Several small cubicles where patients sat alone after being injected with suspected substances. A nurse Injected me with 30 in one arm and 30 in the other and left me alone in the cubicle while she injected other people.

Fortunately for me, his lab tech knew me from a group we both belonged to. She poked her head in to say hello but instead yelled, "Oh my god. Doctor!!"

I did not know what was happening. I was light-headed and spaced out, felt like l would faint. My ears and arms hurt. Both arms were swollen from shoulder to wrist like balloons. Reddish purple streak down the right arm. The doc actually whistled when saw me. Ordered 3 shots of epinephrine and took my pulse, asked if I could breathe ok.

Lab tech later told me my ears were deep purple and huge. .My face looked like a party balloon. Had to stay in the doc's office the rest of the afternoon for observation.

I had reacted positively to all but 3 of the test substances. Left with 3 pages of allergens and cross reaction allergens to beware of. And that did not include allergic foods and meds.

Did not know about anaphylaxis until that day. Read up on it afterward. Found a different allergist who was excellent. But it took the new doc over a year of promising to monitor me closely before I consented to any other tests.

[catchnrelease]

70. Omg, that's crazy!

What causes you that severe of a reaction other than food/meds? Do you mean things like animals, pollens etc? (I understand that you got an overload with the 60 substances. That is so irresponsible!)

I'll bet that doctor was sweating it after you left, waiting for a lawsuit.

[wnylib]

71. Hard to know which ones were

the worst culprits since the swellings merged together.

But tests by a different allergist, done one at a time, with a nurse at my side the whole time, showed the strongest reactions to tree and grass pollens, rabbits, and molds. There is a mold with a multi-syllable name that I can't remember which produced an instant, rapid reaction that made the nurse leap into action. The spores are active in moist, cold temperatures, e.g. early spring, and midwinter thaws. Outside of a test setting, it causes me some pretty strong asthma attacks, earaches, and headaches. Another type of mold produces drowsiness to the point of conking out. Cannot eat mushrooms without severe upper abdominal pain from internal hives and swelling.

Other allergens: pyrethrins (marigolds), hemlock trees (on contact), maple, poplar, and dandeliin pollens, pine trees and scents, peanuts (but remarkably mild reaction), cucumber scents and soaps, birds, several foods, latex, nickel alloys in clothing snaps and costume jewelry, 3 types of meds, and most vaccines due to the bases used in them.

But, I can't live in a bubble, so I avoid the worst of them and take antihistamines. Not as limiting as it sounds because the pollens are only in the spring. Rabbits are easy to avoid. Pines are only a problem in enclosed spaces, not outdoors.

An irony that amuses me is that I am NOT allergic to the one thing that most people are - poison ivy.

Did not occur to me to sue at the time because I knew nothing about normal allergy testing procedures. Did not realize until much later how negligent the doc had been.

At least I think he was scared out of being skeptical of patients who come in reporting numerous symptoms and substances. From his perspective, he dodged a bullet. How would he explain losing a patient from testing right in the office?

[smirkymonkey]

32. That's totally acceptable. I am talking about people who will only eat very few things and

will never try anything new or different.

It's one thing if you are a vegetarian or have to avoid gluten or dairy for health reasons or just don't like certain things, but he's just an immature philistine. What is the point of ordering a prime cut of beef if you are just going to have the chef cook it to death and pour ketchup all over it? You might as well just order a hamburger.

[Harker]

41. ...or a shoe.

Better yet, a freshly polished pair of his size 12s.

[jberryhill]

12. There is plenty of meat to eat in India

Not everyone in India is vegetarian.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

15. In India cows are sacred

Toddler trump has to eat beef.
He does not eat vegetables, he would balk at Curries and traditional Indian foods.
He's a picky spoiled toddler.

[jberryhill]

16. You can eat beef in India

I have eaten beef in India.

There is quite a large Muslim community which, I assure you, eats beef and serves it in restaurants.

What is "traditional" depends on your tradition. There are many different traditions and cultures in India. Generalizations such as "cows are sacred" do not apply to everyone there, and they are simply stereotypes based on one particular tradition there among one set of people.

You can get a McDonald's hamburger in India, if that's what you are after.

[whopis01]

46. McDonald's does not serve beef in India. n/t

[IronLionZion]

47. There are political and economic reasons why global chains avoid serving beef in India

to avoid accidental contamination or even the accusation of such a thing.

but plenty of local chains and independent restaurants do serve beef hamburgers in India.

[whopis01]

48. Obviously. I never claimed otherwise.

The poster whom I was referring to made specific reference to being able to get a hamburger at McDonalds I India. That simple is not the case.

Slaughtering of cows for beef is legal in 9 of India’s states (if memory serves - I may be off on that number). And you can certainly get beef in the other states as well.

But not at a McDonald's.

[IronLionZion]

49. Fair enough

[IronLionZion]

43. In India, plenty of Muslims and Christians and liberal Hindus eat beef

[haele]

18. There are also KFCs in India. Along with Chicken nuggets.

But I'm sure he can survive on institutional Chicken Kiev or lobster recipe, or some other such "high end" TV style non-beef fancy dinner.

Haele

[jberryhill]

19. True story - I had KFC there

On a business trip to Delhi, our host arranged a bus trip for a number of people to the Taj Mahal. It's a considerable drive down and back, so he had a mix of veg meals and KFC meals for the guests.

On arrival in Agra, the boxes of leftover meals were given to some poor children who were hanging around the bus parking area.

They dutifully picked out the chicken parts, tossed them, and at the muffins and cole slaw.

[IronLionZion]

20. I've had steak in India, and plenty of beef and other meats

Plenty of Indians do plenty of things and should never be generalized.

It's like when people in other countries think Americans are obese, stupid, lazy, promiscuous, and shoot each other. Lot of DUers would disagree with such characterizations and say that's only the deplorables.

[malaise]

22. I had Indian neighbors and the only meat they didn't eat was

beef

[IronLionZion]

42. My family probably grew up eating too much beef

one of the best things about America is the juicy tender flavorful beef available everywhere. Yum!

In India, the laws vary by state, sometimes by town. There are areas where even the rumor of eating beef has gotten people lynched to death. But then there are other areas that have steakhouses and beef butchers. There are folks who believe that only 1 specific breed of cattle is sacred to the Hindus and that's not the type that we eat. Buffalo meat is also widely available in many parts of India as an alternative.

[jberryhill]

28. I never shot nobody

[IronLionZion]

39. I shot the sheriff

But I didn't shoot no deputy

[Kali]

17. not entirely true

https://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2015/08/06/where-you-can-and-cant-eat-beef-in-india/

Meanwhile, in the southern state of Kerala, where beef dishes are popular and which has a larger than average proportion of Christians, there is no statewide legislation restricting cow slaughter.

And the northeastern states of Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland and the territory of Lakshadweep also have no legislation banning or prohibiting slaughter of cows and other cattle.

[Politicub]

23. Why did they even show up in the first place?

That's what I don't get. I doubt Trump's remarks were any more insane than what he says at his U.S. rallies.

Maybe they had never seen him speak on TV and thought it would be historic to see a U.S. president give a live speech?

[Hekate]

45. Probably thought it would make an interesting day's entertainment to see a US President speak...

...and had no idea how horrible he is IRL. Despite what Trump said, most outlying areas have very spotty electrical delivery, with outages every day.

Thanks to our friendship with an Indian ex-pat, we've been to many community holiday celebrations over the years here in SoCal, often featuring a short amateur comic play. The last one was about a family dragging their American teenagers back to their hometown in India to get to know the relatives, and the culture-shock that hilariously ensues. Middle class prosperity is not the same in both countries, especially when the kids discover daily electrical outages interfere with their ability to use the electronic devices they take for granted. (Much laughter in the audience.)

Trump is an idiot to the bone.

[Brother Buzz]

25. When Modi shuts down the internet...

Only the call center scammers have the internet.

[onenote]

27. Do you know that or is just speculation?

Were there interviews with those leaving that explained why they were departing? Some reports indicated that folks started to leave because the speech went on for a half hour in temperatures approaching 90 degrees.

[malaise]

60. It was noticeable that people walked out

when he talked about electricity and when he talked about unemployment.
People knew he was lying.
There were Indian cricket fans posting about the lies,

One more thing - he was fact checked.

https://week.com/2020/02/24/ap-fact-check-trump-hypes-india-modernization-us-economy/

THE FACTS: His suggestion that all of India now has access to electricity is false. The government of India says a village is electrified if at least 10% of homes and public buildings have electricity. According to the World Bank, about 99 million people, or 7% of India’s population, still live in the dark.

___

TRUMP: “Six hundred million more people have access to basic sanitation.”

THE FACTS: He’s skirting critical facts.

It’s true that India has built more than 110 million new toilets since Modi’s government came to power in 2014, leading to increased access to basic sanitation. But implementation has been spotty in a country where venturing into the fields to defecate has been widespread and accepted.

More than 60% of India’s 1.3 billion people live in more than 600,000 villages. Poor villagers who couldn’t build toilets in their homes chose open fields, forests, ditches and other open spaces for defecation — and that cultural practice has been slow to change.

A 2018 study conducted by the non-profit Research Institute for Compassionate Economics, for instance, found 44% of the rural population across four large states still defecate in the open. Nearly one-quarter of people in households with toilets also continued to defecate in the open, a figure unchanged from 2014, according to the study.

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More at link about the lies spewed today

[Hermit-The-Prog]

33. His handlers probably consider it a success if he did not mention Geronimo.

[malaise]

36. Too good

[appalachiablue]

35. Monsoon Wedding (2001) wonderful film

[Hekate]

54. Monsoon Wedding is one of my all-time favorites. Sadly, your link says no content allowed...

...for some reason. (It came out at about the same time as My Big Fat Greek Wedding, but they are nothing like each other.) Highly recommended.

[Sogo]

40. Will you provide a link, please

about them walking out? I want to stick it to a Trumpster who's bragging about the big turnout for tRump.

Thanks!

[hatrack]

50. . . .

Link to tweet

[malaise]

72. Welcome to DU

Some of us are watching what's going on in India. It's sickening.

[subana]

44. he always has been an arrogant, ignorant fool!

more people here should do that too!

[LakeArenal]

51. He proves that last part at least five times a day.

[edbermac]

57. Their checks probably bounced.

[malaise]

74. You should translate that

and welcome to DU