Should Jane Fonda speak at Kent State on May 4th?

[JohnnyRingo]

That's the poll in my daily blab and it needs more DU love.

She's speaking for the 50th anniversary of the Kent State shooting by the National Guard and local rednecks have it at 76% NO.

https://www.tribtoday.com/

Down on the left side please if you haven't voted yet.
Thanx!

[brooklynite]

1. Considering that this will have no impact on the decision, no...

[JohnnyRingo]

2. Thanks anyway.

I'm just embarrassed that a poll in my local paper would be so decisive against Jane Fonda and her activism.

I'm sure you have your reasons why you can't click on a poll. Could've just moved along without comment.

[AncientGeezer]

3. NO....absolutely not....want to wind up people...just No.

[Ohiogal]

4. I think our daily blab

Only gets comments from old crabby Trumpsters who are Fox News addicts.

It’s a shame. We used to be so solidly Democratic around here,right, Johnny?

And yes I voted.

[samplegirl]

5. I was just gonna

Say the same! Back in the day every D.U.er jumped on a bias poll such as this!

[Haggis for Breakfast]

6. I don't think Hanoi Jane should speak at all,

but that's just me.

I grew up close to Kent State, so don't frag me. I was a senior in HS when the shooting occurred, we were all horrified. We had friends there.

Her speaking there would be an insult.

[samplegirl]

7. So is gungirl

walking around.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

8. I almost fell off my chair when I saw that.

Especially in light of what had happened there. But, I believe that she was a send-up. Everything about that had "Click Bait" written all over it.

[Ohiogal]

27. Absolutely.

[DURHAM D]

9. Will she be talking about climate change? nt

[JohnnyRingo]

12. She'll be talking about her activism.

Mostly about anti-war protests in the '60s according to the newspaper.

David Crosby is playing that week as well and so is Joe Walsh with Barnstorm. I'll be there for the Joe Walsh concert. He was a student there during the shooting. Got to see him a lot with the James Gang back then.

[burrowowl]

10. I was in France as a teaching assistant and boarded at the school

when I went out to go teach my class, the whole school 2200+ pupils and teachers were outside holding up newspapers asking how could this happen?
De Gaulle had gotten deposed by referendum the year before Mai 68 because he thought about sending tanks to Paris to calm things down.

[Raine]

11. NO absolutely NOT!!!! nt

[JohnnyRingo]

13. Sorry.

I didn't know people here despised Jane Fonda so much. Rather surprised actually.

[janterry]

28. retired military especially

I'm not - and fwiw, I've always liked her.

(oh, you meant on this board. I have no idea how many like/despise)

[Brother Buzz]

14. This dumb draftee has no problems with it whatsoever

FWIW, it looks like the Fonda poll has ended.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

15. No.

The Vietnam War was before my day, and I understand it’s not always right to be defined by your weakest moment, but I could just imagine being a Vietnam vet and still feeling rather insulted by her actions.

There is a time and place for everything, and being at Kent State on May 4th is neither for Jane Fonda.

Sorry.

[JohnnyRingo]

20. Most of what people know about Jane Fonda

...is right wing propaganda invented at the time to demonize her and as an example to other Hollywood types who would dare speak against the war. Hard to believe they'd do that, huh?

While she did visit N Vietnam and was exploited by the govt there, the whole prison camp episode was fabricated, as was much more that people hate her for.

As for her being at Kent May 4th. The campus was full of Jane Fondas on May 4th 1970. We were almost all against the war back then. What happened since?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

21. It doesn't matter. It will forever be a part of her legacy.

When she passes, undoubtedly it will part of the first paragraph of her obituary.

Not that I dislike Jane Fonda, but I don't necessarily get all the adulation for her, either.

She's an actress. She's got opinions. She's free to express them. And that's fine and good.

But regardless of whether or not she was "exploited" by the North Vietnamese, she should have never put herself in that position in the first place, and she has only herself to blame for that picture.

Again, sorry.

That picture shouldn't define her, but it will always haunt her.

[JohnnyRingo]

22. I think her legacy will be Barbarella.

Made a huge impression on a teenage me.

As for her sins of protest, if the youth of today was around back then, we'd still be in Vietnam.

[Owl]

16. Yes absolutely.

[HAB911]

17. Yes, oh yes

as a draftee, without activists like Jane there would not have been 58,000 dead, more like 158,000 and I would have one of those

[DiverDave]

18. Why not?

It's still a free* country, well for some.
I think she would be a good fit.
Those kids were murdered by American soldiers.
I still havnt heard who was responsible.
Murderers got away with it.
Land of the free my ass.

[gratuitous]

19. Certainly she should

The victims at Kent State were her ideological compatriots. Are peacemakers not allowed to mourn their dead like the military mourns its dead? This is one memorial to four who died protesting war, but even that's too much for some people in our militaristic society.

[G_j]

23. Yes

& a PSA,

Did Jane Fonda Betray American POWs in North Vietnam?
The long-standing claim that Jane Fonda turned smuggled messages from U.S. POWs over to their North Vietnamese captors is false.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jane-fonda-pows/

[JohnnyRingo]

32. You are correct.

I was a bit taken aback by how many presumably young progressives here hate her for speaking out against the Vietnam War, and I assume, aiding and abetting the enemy. Worse, they seem oblivious to how the right, including many still around like Jim Corsi, tagged her with fabricated sins, even as that right wing continues to attack the likes of The Dixie Chicks and Sean Penn.

It was a coordinated effort that led to many who still believe returning soldiers (our friends & classmates!) had to walk a gauntlet where they had no choice but to be spat upon by a long line of us unwashed hippies.

[not_the_one]

24. Absolutely she should.

The people there to support her will be expressing love and hope.

The people there to protest her will be expressing hate based on a manipulated ignorance.

So HELL yes.

[Paladin]

25. Yes, and why not? She was correct, all along. (nt)

[Botany]

26. No

n/t

[SergeStorms]

29. Anyone who was not 18 yrs. of age....

On that fateful day almost 50 years ago, should be allowed to vote in that poll. You had to be of age during those times to understand how completely fucked up that military action was. It was a fucking PROTEST for chrisakes! One side had military weapons and live ammunition, the other words, and a few rocks. If you could have heard the number of shots fired after the order to fire was given you'd have to wonder what kind of hideously warped country we were living in. Nixon continually provided the answer to that question.

[dumbcat]

30. No.

[MuseRider]

31. Jane Fonda

should speak wherever the heck she wants too. There is spill about this? When are people ever going to grow up. I grow tired of waiting for that to happen.

Going to vote. Good grief.