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CousinIT

(9,241 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 09:13 AM Feb 2020

Wicked far right US Supreme Court has created a 'shadow docket' - a parallel legal system for Trump

https://popular.info/p/the-supreme-court-quietly-goes-full

. . .The shadow docket
In the ordinary course of business, a federal case winds itself through the federal district and appeals courts. That process might involve temporary injunctions or other preliminary rulings, but it's all handled by the district court and intermediate federal courts of appeal. When all that is over, the losing party decides whether or not to ask the Supreme Court to review the decision. Most requests, due to time constraints, are denied. This is how the system works.

The Trump administration has taken a different approach. It has repeatedly asked the Supreme Court to intervene before the lower courts have fully considered the case. The Trump administration has done so at a rate that is exponentially higher than previous administrations. A recent paper by Professor Stephen Vladeck in the Harvard Law Review goes over the stats:

[I[n less than three years, the Solicitor General has filed at least twenty-one applications for stays in the Supreme Court (including ten during the October 2018 Term alone). During the sixteen years of the George W. Bush and Obama Administrations, the Solicitor General filed a total of eight such applications — averaging one every other Term.

The Supreme Court has approved, in full or in part, about 65% of the Trump administration's requests for emergency relief. The effect has been to effectively create a parallel legal system that allows the administration to advance its policies without first dealing with lower federal courts. In instances when the administration's requests are denied, "the Court’s denial of relief has come summarily and with no public opprobrium — no suggestion from the Court that the Solicitor General is abusing his unique position, taking advantage of his special relationship with the Court, or otherwise acting in a manner unbecoming of the office he holds," Valdeck writes.
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Wicked far right US Supreme Court has created a 'shadow docket' - a parallel legal system for Trump (Original Post) CousinIT Feb 2020 OP
Recommended Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #1
K&R... spanone Feb 2020 #2
Keep kicked. This is serious. blm Feb 2020 #3
I stole this from another poster here, gab13by13 Feb 2020 #4
All anybody has to do with trump is to think about calimary Feb 2020 #17
i have several lawyers in my life that i love to death, but mopinko Feb 2020 #22
We don't have a Supreme Court anymore. leftyladyfrommo Feb 2020 #5
Kick and recommend. bronxiteforever Feb 2020 #6
Little groups of suits and robes make GOP inside dirty deals bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #7
K&R 2naSalit Feb 2020 #8
Kick for exposure. ewagner Feb 2020 #9
Someone with a whole hell of a lot Scarsdale Feb 2020 #10
The usual suspects: RW think tanks. This is the sort of thing they think about. JHB Feb 2020 #14
It's unthinkable, but it's starting to seem more likely rainin Feb 2020 #11
This is scary and true. ramen Feb 2020 #12
Another reason to weep. Boomerproud Feb 2020 #30
Do they ever fasttrack for the Legislative Branch? eShirl Feb 2020 #13
Not that I'm aware of. n/t CousinIT Feb 2020 #15
Well he likes to go to Federalist Society gigs, if that answers the question of who this "guy' is... turbinetree Feb 2020 #16
Kick. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #18
K&R n/t Kitchari Feb 2020 #19
When you've packed the court with political lap dogs why Liberal In Texas Feb 2020 #20
Moscow Mitch and Anthony Kennedy's son take on more significance now. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #21
One might conclude we need structural change pecosbob Feb 2020 #23
Repugs are not conservative, but they are criminals. rickyhall Feb 2020 #24
Very disturbing. kentuck Feb 2020 #25
But Hillary had an email server!! She was so corrupt!! MH1 Feb 2020 #26
Kick! burrowowl Feb 2020 #27
Consider that warmfeet Feb 2020 #28
And yet the Supreme Court will likely not get the Trump case against Obamacare applegrove Feb 2020 #29
Sorta rhymes with... moondust Feb 2020 #31

gab13by13

(21,321 posts)
4. I stole this from another poster here,
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 09:26 AM
Feb 2020

Hitler decreed that the “People’s Court” would replace trial courts in political cases, including treason. Only loyal Nazis could be judges and treason would be defined as any form of opposition to National Socialism.

calimary

(81,222 posts)
17. All anybody has to do with trump is to think about
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 11:08 AM
Feb 2020

how to get around whatever the rule is, or the law is, or the custom is, or the institutional way is, if it’s keeping you from getting your way.

And it isn’t just st him. The bush/cheney crowd did that, too. They had that “nobody tells ME what to do” mentality. And they’ll cling to the “if the president does it, then it’s NOT illegal.” Hell, that mentality goes back to Nixon! If not even farther. I guess that’s just the republi-CON way, ‘eh?

mopinko

(70,090 posts)
22. i have several lawyers in my life that i love to death, but
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 05:43 PM
Feb 2020

i frequently say that what they teach in law school is not how to uphold the law, but to get around the law.
i mean, that does pretty much sum it up, tho many do it more for good than evil.

but this right here is what happens when you have that on atomic steroids, w no limiting forces in the system any where.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
10. Someone with a whole hell of a lot
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 09:48 AM
Feb 2020

more brains that tRump devised THIS scheme. tRump does not have any knowledge of how the government actually works. He is in it for the money he can make, nothing more. So, WHO is behind these machinations? We saw first hand at the impeachment fiasco how invested in the truth Roberts is. Calling it "The Supreme Court" is laughable. Sexual predators and boot lickers abound on the (R) side.

JHB

(37,159 posts)
14. The usual suspects: RW think tanks. This is the sort of thing they think about.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 10:06 AM
Feb 2020

The Federalist Society. The Heritage Foundation. Others with less familiar names.

Remember the Project For A New American Century, the 90s neoconservative think tank? They cooked up a raft of pet policy projects, got high policy positions in Dubya's administration when the conservatives on the SC forgot about that whole "originalist" business they supposedly found their decisions on, and put C plus Augustus in the Oval Office. The 9/11 gave them the "something like a new Pearl Harbor" they needed to ram most of them into practice, including deposing Saddam. Naturally, what happened didn't quite follow what their group-think circled pictured. That's why all the policy analysis that they were bypassing exists.

Rest assured people like that in those organizations have their own pet lists, and Trump is their opening to carry them out.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
11. It's unthinkable, but it's starting to seem more likely
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 09:49 AM
Feb 2020

that our first woman pResident will be Ivanka. I'm thinking this because tRump isn't going to live that much longer, but he's engineering changes that will outlast him and centralize power. At the same time, he's grooming her and forcing the world to accept her presence on the world stage. He wants to be King and he wants the tRumps to be the royal family with power handed down by decree

ramen

(790 posts)
12. This is scary and true.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 09:55 AM
Feb 2020

Note Sotomayor's comments to this effect a few days back:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/sotomayor-trump-wealth-test-bias-dissent.html

where she said:

But the Supreme Court’s conservatives repeatedly accept the DOJ’s declarations of an “emergency,” giving Donald Trump whatever he wants.

This practice, Sotomayor wrote, has “benefited one litigant over all others”: the Trump administration. And the injustice of this favoritism is especially painful in light of the court’s recent refusal to halt unconstitutional executions. “This Court often permits executions—where the risk of irreparable harm is the loss of life—to proceed,” Sotomayor noted, blaming death row inmates for their ostensible failure “to raise any potentially meritorious claims in a timely manner.” She concluded:

Yet the Court’s concerns over quick decisions wither when prodded by the Government in far less compelling circumstances—where the Government itself chose to wait to seek relief, and where its claimed harm is continuation of a 20-year status quo in one State. I fear that this disparity in treatment erodes the fair and balanced decisionmaking process that this Court must strive to protect.

Put simply: When some of the most despised and powerless among us ask the Supreme Court to spare their lives, the conservative justices turn a cold shoulder. When the Trump administration demands permission to implement some cruel, nativist, and potentially unlawful immigration restrictions, the conservatives bend over backward to give it everything it wants. There is nothing “fair and balanced” about the court’s double standard that favors the government over everyone else. And, as Sotomayor implies, this flagrant bias creates the disturbing impression that the Trump administration has a majority of the court in its pocket.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
16. Well he likes to go to Federalist Society gigs, if that answers the question of who this "guy' is...
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 10:50 AM
Feb 2020

enough said......................Solicitor General, Noel Francisco

https://fedsoc.org/contributors/noel-francisco/commentary

Liberal In Texas

(13,548 posts)
20. When you've packed the court with political lap dogs why
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 05:31 PM
Feb 2020

bother with lower courts? Fast tracks the RW agenda.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
26. But Hillary had an email server!! She was so corrupt!!
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:23 PM
Feb 2020


(god I hope that tag is not needed)


There are some people in this world I that I know IRL, who I will probably never forgive. Well at least not unless they fucking learned their lesson and show it. But it is too late for all the people harmed by the Trump administration.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
28. Consider that
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 09:28 PM
Feb 2020

we, meaning people wishing to survive, may have to take to the streets in order to survive.

The complete evisceration of our constitutional law is happening before our eyes.

We may be forced to take action. It may be action that does not occur by typing words onto a screen while on the internet.

This is not a suggestion for action, just a thought experiment on my part.

applegrove

(118,636 posts)
29. And yet the Supreme Court will likely not get the Trump case against Obamacare
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 12:38 AM
Feb 2020

until after the 2020 election.

moondust

(19,976 posts)
31. Sorta rhymes with...
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 07:07 AM
Feb 2020
Volksgerichtshof

The court...
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...was set up outside the operations of the constitutional frame of law.
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...was established in 1934 by order of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, in response to his dissatisfaction at the outcome of the Reichstag fire trial, in which all but one of the defendants were acquitted. The court had jurisdiction over a rather broad array of "political offenses"...
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...almost always sided with the prosecution, to the point that being hauled before it was tantamount to a death sentence.
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