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Does anyone have any inside information to what Italy is doing to track (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 OP
Nothing yet JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #1
Thank you for that inside information! Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #2
Crazy JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #3
I'm guessing that face masks will be the rage at the Carnival, like Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #4
Now it looks like it has hit Calabria JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #8
Off topic but my great grandpa was from Calabria a la izquierda Feb 2020 #5
Excellent JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #10
Being from northern Italy myself WilmywoodNCparalegal Feb 2020 #6
Here's an article on that subject. KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2020 #7
That's dated yesterday; may no longer be accurate muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #9
I wonder about those races - What was the way they passed water around to the runners? Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #12
Damn it! Of course! Greetings from face kissing! Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #11
Didn't think of this. Headed to Rome in June Roland99 Feb 2020 #13
Lucky you my hubby made me marlakay Feb 2020 #14
Pack facemasks, gloves and clorox wipes. Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #15
Thinking we should buy trip insurance Roland99 Feb 2020 #16
If it's reasonably priced, do it. Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #17

JustAnotherGen

(31,817 posts)
1. Nothing yet
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 11:39 AM
Feb 2020

Relative just flew in from Calabria last night. Mom is in the Parliament. We have two Senators and three members in our family in Parliament.

Some thought that it survived on something.

If that's the case - the world is screwed. I'm in Import/Export, Hazmat, Regulatory, Ewaste, etc. etc. If it survived on SomeTHING - this can get really bad really quick.

That's all I've got.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
2. Thank you for that inside information!
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 11:41 AM
Feb 2020

Anything is helpful. Yes, if it survived on something it's a game changer.

JustAnotherGen

(31,817 posts)
3. Crazy
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 11:43 AM
Feb 2020

People in Calabria are complaining that the schools didn't close - yet they are all gathering in Acri's town square for Carnival tonight.

Seriously - I love my husband and my family through him - but the Calabrese ethnic group makes not ONE IOTA of senses.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
5. Off topic but my great grandpa was from Calabria
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:54 PM
Feb 2020

Came over after the massive earthquake in 1907. It killed his entire family, making him a 7 year old orphan.

JustAnotherGen

(31,817 posts)
10. Excellent
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:27 PM
Feb 2020

I'm not - I'm everything BUT Calabrese! My husband goes back to the 8th century in the main church in Acri. Best way to find your relatives? The Churches. Major distrust of the Government in Calabria - so the old Churches is where they can be found. Birth, Confirmation, Marriage, Death, etc. etc.

WilmywoodNCparalegal

(2,654 posts)
6. Being from northern Italy myself
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:08 PM
Feb 2020

that area has seen a huge influx of Chinese immigrants. It wouldn't surprise me if patient zero was someone who went to China (Wuhan region specifically) and brought the disease with him/her/them.

Or, since Italians are well-traveled, an Italian who went to China and returned asymptomatic.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
7. Here's an article on that subject.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:17 PM
Feb 2020
Coronavirus: Life around Italy's quarantined 'red zone'

Italian authorities have placed some 50,000 people in the country's north under de facto quarantine due to a rise in coronavirus infections. Villagers are adjusting to this new reality, Bernd Riegert reports from Italy.


Link: https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-life-around-italys-quarantined-red-zone/a-52513830

(snips)
Tracking down 'patient zero'

Italy's government cannot say when it will lift its precautionary measures. The country's health agencies, meanwhile, are relatively certain they have tracked down the first carrier of the virus in Italy — the country's "patient zero" — to a small town near Vittadone. The 38-year-old man contracted the virus and was hospitalized in Codogno where he reportedly spread it to many others. According to media reports, practically all infections can be linked to said individual.

Italy's government is therefore working to track down everyone who has crossed paths or interacted with the man in order to contain the virus outbreak. An unnamed individual who worked at Codogno hospital before it was shut down told ANSA news agency via phone that "there is a sense of panic because nobody knows what will come next and how we are supposed to take care of medical emergencies."
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"We've stopped shaking hands and kissing each other on the cheek," says Marco. This is rather rude by Italian standards, the young man adds semi-jokingly. Marco, who lives in Vittadone, a small village in the country's northern Lombardy region, has been wearing a face mask since Sunday. He complains that the pharmacy charged him ten euros for it — "an outrage," he says.

But face masks and hand disinfectant are hard to come by in the region these days, which drives up prices. Marco is one of the few villagers to wear a face mask; most others say they find it an unnecessary safety precaution even though their village neighbors Italy's "red zone" — a cluster of ten communities placed under de facto quarantine because of confirmed coronavirus infections.

KY.........

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
9. That's dated yesterday; may no longer be accurate
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:26 PM
Feb 2020
Hundreds of colleagues who worked with the first infected man, a researcher at Unilever, were being tested but it was still unclear whom he had contracted the illness from. The man, who was in intensive care, was initially thought to have caught the virus after meeting a colleague who had recently returned from China, but the colleague tested negative.

“Unfortunately, the person who was considered to be ‘patient zero’ was not,” said Attilio Fontana, the president of Lombardy. “We need to look elsewhere. We are following two hypotheses, and we will try to understand if one of the two is correct.”

The 38-year-old recently took part in a number of races. His pregnant wife is also infected, as is a person who went running with him. Three other cases in Lombardy are elderly people who frequented a bar in Codogno owned by the father of the man who went running with the 38-year-old.

The man who died in Veneto was diagnosed with pneumonia a few weeks ago but had not travelled to China nor come into contact with anyone who had.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/italy-draconian-measures-effort-halt-coronavirus-outbreak-spread

From today:

The worst affected country in Europe has not yet identified “patient zero,” raising alarm about how widely the disease has already spread. Specialists are unclear on why Italy was hit by an outbreak despite taking tough early prevention measures, and becoming the first EU country to ban flights to and from China.

http://www.rfi.fr/en/international/20200225-global-coronavirus-threat-explained-7-fast-facts

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
13. Didn't think of this. Headed to Rome in June
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 02:43 PM
Feb 2020

A looong layover for a day in London then on to Rome then a Mediterranean cruise

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