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malaise

(268,863 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:19 PM Feb 2020

This cop is violating the law - six year old handcuffed and arrested

This is madness
https://time.com/5790482/6-year-old-arrested-florida-body-cam/

(ORLANDO, Fla.) — A police officer’s body camera shows a 6-year-old Florida girl crying and begging officers not to arrest her as one fastens zip ties around her wrists at a charter school.

The video Kaia Rolle’s family shared with the Orlando Sentinel and other media outlets Monday shows the girl being arrested in September for kicking and punching staff members at her Orlando charter school.

“What are those for?” Kaia asks about the zip ties in the video. “They’re for you,” Officer Dennis Turner says before another officer tightens them around her wrists and Kaia begins weeping.

Turner was fired shortly after the arrest. Orlando Police Chief Orlando Rolon said at the time that Turner didn’t follow department policy of getting the approval of a watch commander to arrest someone younger than 12.

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This cop is violating the law - six year old handcuffed and arrested (Original Post) malaise Feb 2020 OP
I watched this video about an hour ago and I am still feeling ill--seeing this little girl Mrs. Overall Feb 2020 #1
Sickening indeed malaise Feb 2020 #4
Blow Back is a Bitch. Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #2
he violated police department policy, but it's not (yet) a violation of the law unblock Feb 2020 #3
Good grief malaise Feb 2020 #6
well at least they fired him unblock Feb 2020 #9
Jebus. And we're going to put a 14yr old in for life in NYC. marble falls Feb 2020 #5
This was a charter school... MontanaMama Feb 2020 #7
I noted that malaise Feb 2020 #8
Yes. The stupid adult who didn't object should be fired too. Is horrendous judgment contagious? brush Feb 2020 #12
ugh Demovictory9 Feb 2020 #10
This is a strong reminder that we have local issues as well as national ones. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #11
I taught first grade for 18 years... Tucker08087 Feb 2020 #13
Wow. Beautiful story. And attitude. mdelaguna Feb 2020 #14
Tucker, 💖💖💖 irisblue Feb 2020 #17
Great post malaise Feb 2020 #19
FTP. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #15
How are adults incapable of calming a six year old alphafemale Feb 2020 #16
Another link to this terrible thing Tom Yossarian Joad Feb 2020 #18

Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
1. I watched this video about an hour ago and I am still feeling ill--seeing this little girl
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:27 PM
Feb 2020

beg and cry as she was handcuffed and led to the police car literally turned my stomach.

Horrible for the school to have called the police and horrible for them to have actually arrested her. Not only that, but they did a mugshot and fingerprinting at the station--all without her having any adult family members present.

So, so upsetting.

malaise

(268,863 posts)
4. Sickening indeed
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:31 PM
Feb 2020

I did notice that this was a charter school. Who handcuffs a six year old let alone arrests her?

unblock

(52,181 posts)
3. he violated police department policy, but it's not (yet) a violation of the law
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:29 PM
Feb 2020

i understand the florida legislature might ban arrest of minors under 12 entirely, but that hasn't happened yet afaik.

unblock

(52,181 posts)
9. well at least they fired him
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:36 PM
Feb 2020

some people forget (or never understood) the whole point of the things they do.

what good would a formal arrest of a 6-year old accomplish? especially in such an ordinary situation.

MontanaMama

(23,301 posts)
7. This was a charter school...
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 06:34 PM
Feb 2020

Would this be allowed to go down at a public school? I’m not being argumentative, I genuinely want to know. I’m shocked they can let an officer handcuff a child and remover her from school without notifying a parent or guardian?!?!?

Tucker08087

(621 posts)
13. I taught first grade for 18 years...
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:59 PM
Feb 2020

They were 5-7 year olds depending on the age they entered kindergarten and the time of year. I eventually became a diagnostic learning specialist, but for the majority of my career, my students were 6 years old.
Some were really tough kids. I know of several that went to prison in middle school. I can name at least 15 that ended up in an alternative school for extreme (violent) behaviors. I’m only saying this to point out that this wasn’t the cream of the crop. It is a very low-income area and I certainly faced all of the problems that come with that: hunger, anxiety, abuse, drug addiction, parental deaths, etc. I never called the police. I never called the principal. Heck, I never even yelled, and I’m a very tiny, soft-spoken chipmunk-sounding woman. They are babies. I would often look at their hands when they were learning to print and just wonder at how tiny they were. Even after 17 years.
Here’s what is missing in the understanding of a teacher or a school system that does this: I believed that these kids, no matter what baggage they came with, were MY kids when in my care. And it didn’t take long for them to realize that I wasn’t going anywhere. I meant what I said, ALWAYS. If I was unhappy with a behavior, I made it clear that it would change, because I wanted better for THEM. Because I loved them. And there was nothing that could be done that would erase that love. Oh, they tried. Foster kids can be especially hard to win over. They have learned that people give up on them easily. MY kids knew I wasn’t giving up. They respected me because I respected them. Without yelling, or threats, or police. With LOVE.
And PATIENCE.
Frankly, this makes me ill, because this girl will grow up to be afraid to go to a police officer who she may need. She will be expected to learn in a school where she does not feel safe, and learning does not happen in that atmosphere. What the hell were they trying to teach her? What life skill or social skill have they given her? I see nothing but horror, fear, distrust, hatred. My God, she’s 6 years old. My school was often the one safe place for my kids. They learned, in time, to leave the fear and insecurity at the door, and the attitudes were left there, too. Trust was picked up, and self-confidence. And learning happened. So did laughter, by the way, and yes, I hugged.
I know I’m rambling on, but years later, I had moved to another school with much older kids. 4 boys, all at least 6 feet tall got into a fight. There was one young (but much bigger) teacher there. She pointed out one of the kids and said he was too dangerous. She wasn’t getting involved. So I got in the middle, expecting to get punched, when this scary boy (who had been one of mine, when he was six) yelled, “Hold up!” He backed away. One of the other kids started taunting, “Oooh! You got owned by Little Miss Teacher Lady?” He said, “So what? She’s like my mom to me? Nobody hurts her. Got it?” I hugged him and I had a few tears. He asked if they were from happiness to see him or relief that I didn’t get decked. I admitted to a bit of both. He said, “That’s why I love you. You don’t front. You had my back when I was a small fry. Now you’re the small fry and I got yours.” I watched that kid graduate high school last year. And I cried like a baby.
This isn’t a game. These are lives. Teachers make all the difference in many lives. Let’s be sure it’s the right kind of difference we’re making.

Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,227 posts)
18. Another link to this terrible thing
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 09:12 PM
Feb 2020
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/os-ne-orlando-police-body-camera-6-year-old-arrest-20200224-rlg2ukttdvhehpoj2ki7irqe74-story.html



Kaia Rolle was sitting, listening to a school employee read her a story when two officers came in the room to arrest her.

“What are those for?” the 6-year-old girl asked the Orlando police officers.

“They’re for you,” Officer Dennis Turner said about the zip ties, before another officer tightened them around her wrists. Kaia immediately began weeping.

“No ... no, don’t put handcuffs on!” she wailed in body camera footage from the arrest, which Kaia’s family shared with the Orlando Sentinel Monday evening. The arrests of the girl and another 6-year-old at Lucious & Emma Nixon Academy in September drew national headlines and widespread condemnation, leading to the officer’s firing.


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