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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:39 PM Feb 2020

A New Theory On Time Indicates Present And Future Exist Simultaneously

Oh FFS...On top of everything else on our minds right now science decides to spring this on us.

The box Universe theory describes “now” as an arbitrary place in time and states that the past, the future and the present all exist simultaneously.

Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor of philosophy Dr. Bradford Skow suggests that if we “look down” on the universe as if we were looking at a piece of paper, we would see time spanning all directions, exactly the same way that we see space at some point.

So what does this really mean? Well, this suggests that time as we know it is incorrect, in other words, it is not linear as we have always thought. In fact, everything around us is always present.

Dr. Skow further details:

“The block universe theory says you’re spread out in time, something like the way you’re spread out in space. We’re not located at a single time.”

Dr. Skow agrees that while things change and we see time as if it were passing, Dr. Skow believes that we are in a ‘scattered conditions’ and that different parts of time may be dotted around the infinite universe.




https://sciencephiles.com/a-new-theory-on-time-indicates-present-and-future-exist-simultaneously-2/
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A New Theory On Time Indicates Present And Future Exist Simultaneously (Original Post) ehrnst Feb 2020 OP
So Trump will always be President? guillaumeb Feb 2020 #1
And he will always not be president Generic Brad Feb 2020 #18
Persuade yourself of any damn thing, elleng Feb 2020 #2
Dr Strange called this the Akashic Records. panader0 Feb 2020 #3
I *heart* Doctor Strange! Coventina Feb 2020 #4
I was doing psychedelics in those days panader0 Feb 2020 #8
I approve this message. Dr. Strange Feb 2020 #49
oooo! Coventina Feb 2020 #52
I was a huge Marvel freak back then. Steve Ditko was the only artist who got Dr Strange right... First Speaker Feb 2020 #7
🤔 dweller Feb 2020 #5
Is there anything testable here? unblock Feb 2020 #6
theory is demonstrated here: Takket Feb 2020 #9
Fast forward...now! Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #13
Einstein Nailed This Decades Ago colsohlibgal Feb 2020 #10
Well, hello! Mme. Defarge Feb 2020 #11
Now H2O Man Feb 2020 #12
Well it would have to be confirmed for him to have nailed it Loki Liesmith Feb 2020 #26
'How-how does the Universe end?' said Billy. Orrex Feb 2020 #14
Yep. intheflow Feb 2020 #40
As James Taylor said in "Secret of Life" TomSlick Feb 2020 #15
A beautiful song, one of my favorites. LastDemocratInSC Feb 2020 #29
Mine too. JudyM Feb 2020 #30
trumPutin is here, now. Some of you are not clicking your heels hard enough. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #16
Tralfamadorians have always known this Martin Eden Feb 2020 #17
What bearing would this have on misanthrope Feb 2020 #19
Wow. I love this question renate Feb 2020 #20
There are all sorts of similar theories. hunter Feb 2020 #21
I read something once Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #36
Meaningless drivel. Goodheart Feb 2020 #22
+1000 (nt) End Of The Road Feb 2020 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Goodheart Feb 2020 #34
Many people believe that about science. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #43
I don't believe science is meaningless drivel. Goodheart Feb 2020 #44
If time was created in the big bang, we have to be existing in time squared. Mc Mike Feb 2020 #23
Only if you're traveling 88mph Roland99 Feb 2020 #24
I can't wrap my mind around this... dchill Feb 2020 #27
I've known all this since tomorrow. johnp3907 Feb 2020 #28
Iow, it is always NOW. sagesnow Feb 2020 #31
How soon is that? Goodheart Feb 2020 #35
Run at the speed of light yet sagesnow Feb 2020 #37
Very interesting article. Was, is and always will be? FM123 Feb 2020 #32
I was just pondering the issue of linear time not being real yesterday on a long drive. JudyM Feb 2020 #33
As if I don't have enough to worry about. nt Buns_of_Fire Feb 2020 #38
Do you know why we have time? yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2020 #39
:) Is that why some are SO resistant and alarmed at the thought? Hortensis Feb 2020 #41
So, just WHERE are Jefferson, Abe and FDR? Not when, though. Hortensis Feb 2020 #42
in that case drmeow Feb 2020 #45
Watching too much Rick & Morty lame54 Feb 2020 #46
Why is there a dog on the left wall? flt rsk Feb 2020 #47
Wormhole Aliens! MyNameGoesHere Feb 2020 #48
Basically, the theory boils down to this... Dr. Strange Feb 2020 #50
My favorite Doctor Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2020 #51
Perfectly reasonable. More or less the scientific consensus. Not at all new. enki23 Feb 2020 #53
Sweet! This aligns with an Orange Sunshine theory Baked Potato Feb 2020 #54

panader0

(25,816 posts)
3. Dr Strange called this the Akashic Records.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:51 PM
Feb 2020

He could view past or present using his All Seeing Eye of Agamoto,
an amulet hanging around his neck. Really old ('63 or '64) Marvel Comics.
I actually give a lot of credence to that theory. It's as if everything that ever happened
anywhere or anytime is etched in somewhere in time (time is hard to grasp).
I still have some of those old comics, they were the only ones I ever read.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Strange

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
4. I *heart* Doctor Strange!
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:53 PM
Feb 2020


I think he's one of Marvel's most overlooked and under-utilized characters.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
7. I was a huge Marvel freak back then. Steve Ditko was the only artist who got Dr Strange right...
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:56 PM
Feb 2020

...all those weird dimensions and creatures. Kirby was the greater artist, of course. But Steve...I dunno. He was the one, for Those Who Knew...

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
10. Einstein Nailed This Decades Ago
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 10:04 PM
Feb 2020

His statement was this or close to it “ The distinction between past, present, and future is only a persistent illusion.”.

Existence and Reality are a real “Magical Mystery Tour”.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
14. 'How-how does the Universe end?' said Billy.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 10:40 PM
Feb 2020

"We blow it up, experimenting with new fuels for our flying saucers. A Tralfamadorian test pilot presses a starter button, and the whole Universe disappears." So it goes.

"If You know this," said Billy, "isn't there some way you can prevent it? Can't you keep the pilot from pressing the button?"

"He has always pressed it, and he always will. We always let him and we always will let him. The moment is structured that way."

TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
15. As James Taylor said in "Secret of Life"
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 11:14 PM
Feb 2020

"Now the thing about time is that time
Isn't really real.
It's just your point of view.
How does it feel for you.
Einstein said he could never understand it all."

renate

(13,776 posts)
20. Wow. I love this question
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 04:07 AM
Feb 2020
If this theory of time were true, and if the Many Worlds hypothesis were true, wouldn’t this mean that every possibility already exists in the future? So, each universe created from every “now” quantum (or other) event actually already exists and has already existed, starting at time=0 and stretching out into time=infinity? So at the moment of the Big Bang, all the eventual universes were created simultaneously?

Oh how I wish I were a physicist so I could really grok this stuff. It’s so cool.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
21. There are all sorts of similar theories.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:50 AM
Feb 2020

One of my favorites is that the past is represented in the present in the same way the future is. In other words, changes in the present affect the past.

That's NOT in the sense that the victor writes history. We humans don't have the tools to manipulate the past on the macro scale; at best we can observe some non-intuitive effects on the quantum scale.

In some theories about time the universe always looks much the same no matter where or when you go, if you could go there, but we can't. Time travel and faster than light travel are impossible. We can only ever see the universe as it exists in the place and time that we are, in this present, in this now. Our present's past is an abstraction.

The idea that time is some peculiar "fourth dimension" which only runs in one direction is misleading. We might just as well live in a three dimensional universe where each dimension is two-thirds space-like and one-third time-like.

In that universe we are creatures of energy. We, and everything we know, is an interference pattern written on the light. Photons know no time.

Turin_C3PO

(13,964 posts)
36. I read something once
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:52 AM
Feb 2020

that if photons had eyes, they could see every event that happened throughout time at the same time.

Response to End Of The Road (Reply #25)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
43. Many people believe that about science.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 03:19 PM
Feb 2020

Yet they never support that premise with objective evidence, but rather bumper stickers.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
23. If time was created in the big bang, we have to be existing in time squared.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:00 AM
Feb 2020

Because the very idea of the big bang not existing, then occurring, indicates that some kind of time already existed.

dchill

(38,472 posts)
27. I can't wrap my mind around this...
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:13 AM
Feb 2020

Probably because I've been stuck in last week for most of my life.

sagesnow

(2,824 posts)
31. Iow, it is always NOW.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:31 AM
Feb 2020

I am moving through the everlasting NOW. The past is only stored memories of my movements in NOW. The future is only my imagination; imaginings of what my future movements in the NOW might be. Time travel is not possible because when ever and where ever I am it is always NOW.

P.S. I stole this from Eckhart Tolle, Mooji, Rupert Spira and an army of other teachers of the NOW.

sagesnow

(2,824 posts)
37. Run at the speed of light yet
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:56 AM
Feb 2020

you will never be able to leave the Now. Drugs, music and sensory distractions only mask this truth.

JudyM

(29,233 posts)
33. I was just pondering the issue of linear time not being real yesterday on a long drive.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:43 AM
Feb 2020

Tough for me to grasp.

Along the lines of the Buddhist concept of self/life being illusory.

enki23

(7,787 posts)
53. Perfectly reasonable. More or less the scientific consensus. Not at all new.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 07:27 PM
Feb 2020

Also not certain, and not experimentally verified. It's also unclear whether it would be practically verifiable. Still, it makes for a simple, gentle way to view the universe that doesn't lead to fear of nonexistence, and horseshit about afterlives.

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