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intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 05:21 PM Feb 2020

The very simple fact that asymptomatic people can shed coronavirus

That alone means that this thing is definitely going to continue spiraling out of control.

Just ponder that for a bit: someone who is actively infectious may have zero symptoms. No fever. No cough.

How the hell do you even begin to contain such a beast?

As for China, I do not believe their stats. And once they start reopening their shut down, as people return to work, as trains and stores and streets begin to refill, I predict China gets hit again, hard.

All China did was delay the spread to the world, so insofar that other countries used the time wisely to prepare, their actions were warranted.

How many other countries could even take anywhere near the draconian measures that China took? Build a huge hospital in a week? Please.

I don't think overreaction is even possible at this point.

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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. We also have this new puzzle of people who have "recovered" becoming sick a second time.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 05:24 PM
Feb 2020

Are those people contagious during the dormancy period?

We seem to know very little.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
7. Where are the interviews with those that have recovered?
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 05:32 PM
Feb 2020

This is my biggest question lately.
Surely there should be a few you would think.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
8. Even after they have so called "recovered" they are still shedding the virus.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 05:36 PM
Feb 2020

So their contagious period is at least a month. There are also a few reports about the second time is much worse than the first time.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
4. Here in Europe
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 05:27 PM
Feb 2020

The place is so densely populated and the population is so mobile, we are pretty much resigned to the possibility that we will all get infected sooner or later, and just hope that only a minimal number will suffer severe symptoms and that only the tiniest percentage of them will turn out to be fatalities. Infections have already shown up just about everywhere I have been in the last two weeks. How could I NOT have been exposed already? Infection does not appear to build up immunity, as several cases have been reported of people from Europe to Japan who have been infected, gotten sick from it, recovered, and came down with full infections again.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
11. Thanks. We are vigilant as well. We have one 3/4 German granddaughter and another on the way.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 06:29 AM
Feb 2020

They live down in Königstein, but both my daughter the baby's (soon babies`) father work in Frankfurt, and frequently have to travel to Viienna, Zürich, and London for work. Just this week, I was in Madrid, Barcelona, Utrecht, and a few German cities during rush hour. We'll all be exposed sooner or later, if we haven't been already.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
12. I don't know where you were in '58 and '68
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:29 AM
Feb 2020

But we've been through two other respiratory pandemics. We can handle this one too.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
14. 1958 in Virginia. 1968 in Spain.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:45 AM
Feb 2020

Catalunya, to be specific. We were told to watch for signs of hepatitis while in Barcelona, but that was about as close to getting something serious as I got.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
15. I don't know off hand where the regions of infection
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:01 PM
Feb 2020

were during the Asian and Hong Kong flu pandemics were but the toll worldwide was 2 million in the first 1 million in the second, 70,000 and 34,000 in the US respectively. As a kid they passed by quite unnoticed but my family was pretty concerned. Although oblivion could be bliss I'm just not one to ignore a hazard to my family. Kind of a role reversal.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
16. In the part of Virginia where I was in 1958, we still had dirt roads.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:07 PM
Feb 2020

Where I lived was considered a backwater at best. A few miles away was a dirt airfield that handled single-engine private planes. Where that was at the time, there are now shopping centers and huge fancy apartment complexes that house people that work for the government or some of the many big companies that have settled nearby. No longer the end of the world, the area is now "the Washington suburbs." When I was 6 (in 1958), where I lived hadn't gotten any national attention since the Civil War.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
6. Everything you said, is spot on. I've been following closely for the past
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 05:30 PM
Feb 2020

month. If they tried to quarantine us, half the public is armed, the other half would likely starve to death after their food supplies dwindled. I have no faith in them being organized enough to supply us with even food, like China has.(supposedly)
I always knew Trump's presidency would culminate in some kind of catastrophe...the last thing I had imagined was a pandemic.

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