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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA disappearing NYT article
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Any reaction to this New York Times article re: Leaders Willing to Risk Party Damage? If one were so inclined one could consider it odd that it corresponded with an appearance where my senator, Warren, who is granted, trying to make her case (b'cuz its a campaign after all) but yet again took a few kernels of truth, diluted the truthiness with a soupcon' of disingenuousness and made hay of misinformation
Id still be thrilled to vote for her in the general. Allot of testy things are said in primary's; I guess itll always be the nature of the beast. I hope being misleading doesn't hurt her again. Its rewriting history to say Bernie was pro super delegates in 2016. And he never called for overturning the will of the people- to replace the candidate with himself- he never said that. What he did say (because it was a campaign (and to campaign is to differentiate oneself) is that we cant afford to put forward a nominee who is polling poorly against a unique threat to democracy. To to say he was pro super delegates in 2016 is just not true.
Noteworthy: After the primary he encouraged us to vote for HRC. I know I listened.
In fact a smaller percentage of Sanders supporters voted "other than Clinton" in 2016 and a higher percentage of Clinton supporters voted for McCain.Yes, the PUMAS were happy to put Sarah Palin one position away from the presidency. I dont recall the exact figures but I know it was about 11% -vs- about 24-25% . Another number is 40 (some people say 39) 40 rallies that Bernie held or attended where he implored us to support Hilary.
We must be fact based.
At least Warrenss town hall wasnt as bad as the A-Hole Face advertisement running against Biden in which the voice of Obama seemingly savages Biden from a clip that isnt even about him! And it wasnt even Obamas own words! It's Obama quoting a completely different person (a barber in Chicago?) from the audio version of his book.
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Imagine (unless you dont have to imagine) donating to a candidate, perhaps repeatedly, maybe not eating three meals in order to do so, and loosing too many work hours in order to door knock; imagine being relieved when you hear that that candidate alone beats A-Hole-Face in Pennsylvania (not random, its where I canvassed in 2004 and in 2016 and I desperately wish I were back there now- no, Florida this time- actually Then, imagine that candidate receives a plurality of delegates but then no- were just going to forget all that democracy stuff and a few people who have feelings about the election will replace the candidate chosen by WeThe People and replace him with someone else, even possibly someone plucked from obscurity, because: chaos.
Ever wonder why the Republican party doesnt have super delegates and why in a twisted universe-bend they often seem to win the democracy narrative while rarely if ever respecting the will of the voters.
The voters should decide. < Has this become quaint?
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Wait, this trended...primary Warren? Are they f@###%^#@ kidding? That assumes Warren wont maybe win this primary. Naturally there's bias against the front runner but the front runner's supporters aught have more confidence to- no, wait, no no no, Im tired, I cant! I can't even. Help! We need humour!
I tried to do humour, a post about A-Hole-Face picking a new VP and no one got it cuz- wait, are we meant to tag things as humorous? Never mind, I guess it wasnt funny anyway, but we need humour and we need to have a sense of humour which is different- it requires patience and kindness
Um...
hashtag: I would vote for a boiled toad- what would you?
No- um I would vote for a mummified unioniser- yeah no, um, I would vote for a bag of lawn clippings. Wait, why are these all dead things? I would vote for George R. Martin and I dont even like his books...I would vote for the dentist who pulled the wrong molars out of my jaw, I would vote for Dorinda Feasible and I dont even know who she is Oh well, whatever...hashtag: WE NEED HUMOUR!
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A disappearing NYT article (Original Post)
OfTheBottom99Percent
Feb 2020
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RandySF
(60,895 posts)1. Anyone skipping meals to make donations needs to step back and examine their priorities.
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OfTheBottom99Percent
(47 posts)2. Oh don't be silly
Oh don't be silly, their priority is they don't want to have to skip 2 meals when another corporatist is elected and the social safety net is slashed even more
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Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)3. Maybe the disappearing article
could take the rest of the organization with it..
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OKNancy
(41,832 posts)4. Locking - wrong forum
All discussion of the Primary or Primary candidates goes in the primary forum
Please refer to this post:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1013&pid=9260
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