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Anyone feel like we're living the opening chapters of "The Stand?" One of (Original Post) japple Feb 2020 OP
Nobody in the US has died yet, you might be a tad premature Baclava Feb 2020 #1
That's still not good, getting sick is bad enough uponit7771 Feb 2020 #15
No Loki Liesmith Feb 2020 #2
It occurred to me, but I recognized it as a rather hyperbolic reaction. Aristus Feb 2020 #3
WORSE CASE scenario, ban all dogs, 'Dog tests positive for coronavirus' Baclava Feb 2020 #4
200 million in China quarantined for nearly 3 wks is horrible uponit7771 Feb 2020 #16
Yes. I refer back to all of Chapter 8. Sugar Smack Feb 2020 #5
I'll never forget the first time I read that chapter. Aristus Feb 2020 #7
It has a mortality rate of 2% Downtown Hound Feb 2020 #6
That translates to 20 times more dangerous Pompoy Feb 2020 #8
True, but Captain Trips Miguelito Loveless Feb 2020 #10
The fatality maths TazoChai Feb 2020 #17
The upper respiratory infections we see so often in cats and kittens, especially those in japple Feb 2020 #18
Nowhere as lethal as Captain Tripp Miguelito Loveless Feb 2020 #9
Superflu/Captain Tripps is where I went right away hearing all this news this week. TeamPooka Feb 2020 #11
I keep thinking of... lame54 Feb 2020 #12
No, it's a middle chapter from Chuck Wendig's "Wanderers" lapislzi Feb 2020 #13
I didn't, until now. Thanks a lot... :-P nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2020 #14
Absolutely. budkin Feb 2020 #19

Aristus

(66,319 posts)
3. It occurred to me, but I recognized it as a rather hyperbolic reaction.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:49 PM
Feb 2020

It's good to think about the worst-case scenario (we do it all the time in medicine), but the most likely outcome is usually the most routine and ordinary.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
4. WORSE CASE scenario, ban all dogs, 'Dog tests positive for coronavirus'
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:58 PM
Feb 2020

THE PET dog of a coronavirus patient has tested positive for the deadly disease.

The owner of the dog, Yvonne Chow Hau Yee, who lives in Hong Kong with her beloved Pomeranian, tested her pet pooch after being diagnosed with COVID-19.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11060913/dog-coronavirus-test-positive/

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)
5. Yes. I refer back to all of Chapter 8.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:58 PM
Feb 2020

It describes the fast-moving silent creep from person to person, person to people. The anonymity of it, which is really scary stuff. But it's also good for a little mindful preparation.

Aristus

(66,319 posts)
7. I'll never forget the first time I read that chapter.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:02 PM
Feb 2020

I was appalled at the levels of casual contact, which we all take for granted, that can spread a highly-virulent organism. I had never thought about it that way before. Human beings crave, and need, physical contact with other human beings. It's a source of strength, but also a potential pitfall in the realm of communicable disease.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
6. It has a mortality rate of 2%
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:01 PM
Feb 2020

Meaning it's only a little more dangerous than the flu we've been livng with all our lives. We're not going to all die. Calm down.

TazoChai

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17. The fatality maths
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 03:02 PM
Feb 2020

I thought this initially, too, but that number may not be calculated correctly and is only one dimension of the problem.

Apparently, mortality rate is total dead / (total dead + total recovered). If you look at the latest stats from Johns Hopkins, total dead globally = 2.8 k and total recovered = 36.7k. Using this formula, mortality rate = 2.8k / 39.5k = 7%.

This also assumes data from China is accurate. I'd guess it's on the low end.

The other difference here is the resilience and transmission of the germ. It can survive for longer and spreads more easily. So even if the mortality rate was comparable (which I don't think it is), the total numbers will grow larger more quickly. I guess it's exponential. Also, you may be able to get reinfected.

Also, it can apparently infect animals. We eat animals and keep them as pets. I'm not aware of past pneumonia that can move between species, if that's correct.

So while I definitely agree it's good to be calm, I haven't seen anything like this in my lifetime. We're a little bit in uncharted territory, I think.

japple

(9,822 posts)
18. The upper respiratory infections we see so often in cats and kittens, especially those in
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 05:35 PM
Feb 2020

feral colonies and shelters, are caused by a corona virus, as is the highly contagious and usually deadly feline infectious peritonitis virus but I don't know how closely related to Covid -19.

TeamPooka

(24,221 posts)
11. Superflu/Captain Tripps is where I went right away hearing all this news this week.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:39 PM
Feb 2020

I'm going to miss all of you.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
13. No, it's a middle chapter from Chuck Wendig's "Wanderers"
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 02:17 PM
Feb 2020

Right down to the RW creep occupying the White House. I don't know how Wendig must feel, being a perfect Cassandra.

That book gave me sleepless nights for weeks. Now they're back.

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