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kpete

(71,953 posts)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:58 AM Feb 2020

Coronavirus-THEY Don't Want Us To KNOW.

On MSNBC Saturday, health policy analyst Laurie Garrett warned that there is no way to know for sure — in large part, because our testing capabilities are nowhere near where they need to be.

“It’s far more infectious than the flu and far more deadly than the flu,” said Garrett, referring to comments from Trump and radio host Rush Limbaugh that it was no worse than the flu. “And it is like trying to keep from getting a cold. The best way to think about it is half of all common colds are from the same family of viruses, coronaviruses. If you think about how hard it is to not get a cold when your child comes home sneezing from school or when you go to the office and somebody you work with has a cold, then you realize how contagious it is.”

“The CDC can’t do the test … this is the problem,” continued Garrett. “The test failed. The test isn’t working. It has to be completely rethought, remade. And now the problem is you have jurisdiction after jurisdiction around the country saying, FDA, loosen your rules, let us develop our own tests. We can do it faster. We have the technology in place, we have the scientists in place. Let us do our testing.”

“In the entire United States, we’ve only tested about 450 people. That’s it,” said Garrett. “And you look across the world, and all sorts of countries are way ahead of us with tens of thousands of people having been tested. Even up to a million people being tested. We have no idea how pervasive this virus is in America. And anybody who’s telling you otherwise is full of crap.”



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Coronavirus-THEY Don't Want Us To KNOW. (Original Post) kpete Feb 2020 OP
Treat us like mushrooms...keep us in the dark and feed us shit... Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #1
K&R!!! RKP5637 Feb 2020 #4
K/R Serious business, life and death appalachiablue Feb 2020 #2
The competence or actually lack thereof of this KPN Feb 2020 #3
Your authorities have decided that containment would be too costly Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #5
Laurie Garrett won Pulitzer Prize for reporting on contagious diseases, Great Post Stuart G Feb 2020 #6
K&R! calimary Feb 2020 #7
K & R warmfeet Feb 2020 #8
What we know from three + years of experience... 2naSalit Feb 2020 #9
Mike Pants thinks he's in charge of the end-times now. Praise Jesus! /s/ OMGWTF Feb 2020 #11
And along with 2naSalit Feb 2020 #12
I wonder if you can buy the test? Maybe from a country that doesn't want its people to die Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #10
I certainly would not 2naSalit Feb 2020 #14
My 2 adult children have had the flu mgardener Feb 2020 #17
sounds pretty paranoid to me stopdiggin Feb 2020 #20
Yeah it's probably just the flu. Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #21
Yupper, Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #13
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #15
I read we have only 3 of 100 testing centers Chakaconcarne Feb 2020 #16
Chinese scientists have shared all details luvtheGWN Feb 2020 #18
It's a wonder we've made it this far. Baked Potato Feb 2020 #19

KPN

(15,633 posts)
3. The competence or actually lack thereof of this
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 12:02 PM
Feb 2020

so called administration is pathetic to the point of being dangerous for each and every one of us ... globally!

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
5. Your authorities have decided that containment would be too costly
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 12:31 PM
Feb 2020

for the shareholders of the economy.

They will avoid counting and massage numbers down.

Stuart G

(38,403 posts)
6. Laurie Garrett won Pulitzer Prize for reporting on contagious diseases, Great Post
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 12:37 PM
Feb 2020

Thank You for finding this and posting it...K and R. Outstanding!!! thank you...kpete.

Hit the link below, and you will discover that Laurie Garret knows a whole lot about this issue. If you look to the right of the link, see her picture, then read about her Nobel Prize for reporting on Ebola Virus Outbreak in Zaire...(1996) This scientist is the real deal, outstanding expert with credentials. Laurie has been on this issue for more than 25 years.


https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGNI_enUS494US495&q=Laurie+Garrett#spf=1582994262500

2naSalit

(86,287 posts)
9. What we know from three + years of experience...
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 01:41 PM
Feb 2020

They want us to know nothing. All the head rolling of late proves it... along with putting mike pants in charge.

Farmer-Rick

(10,125 posts)
10. I wonder if you can buy the test? Maybe from a country that doesn't want its people to die
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 01:51 PM
Feb 2020

I'm feeling sore with a headache and sore throat, I don't think it's that coronavirus....no breathing problems or fever. But don't know for sure. I've had the flu shot so it can't be the common flu. But I sure would be more at ease if I could test for it.

I think Trump is purposely trying to kill Americans for Putin. Look, if Putin has convinced Trump that the flu is a hoax, he'll be able to kill tens of thousands, maybe millions, of Americans without firing a shot.

Am I too paranoid about Trump and Putin?

stopdiggin

(11,232 posts)
20. sounds pretty paranoid to me
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 02:55 PM
Feb 2020

but I can see that other posters are encouraging this. Sorry you're feeling a bit under. Hope you're better soon (but the flu, if indeed that's what you have, can linger for at least a week or so .. so expect some carry over).

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. Yupper,
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 01:54 PM
Feb 2020

the Orange Anus's close personal friend Little Kim figured out how to cue this virus,shoot them,and then warn his subjects not to be infected.

The Guardian News has been reporting story after story about just how this Virus is effecting World Trade and especially what is really happening in China's Manufacturing and Shipping Industries.

Sounds like this Virus out break could not have hit at a worse time of year,Chinese New Years where Families are more important than any other time of year.

BTW,all the schools in Vietnam will remain closed for two more weeks. Same for most of China.

Response to kpete (Original post)

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
18. Chinese scientists have shared all details
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 02:28 PM
Feb 2020

about Covid-19 with health researchers around the world. The following is from Maclean's Magazine regarding the test development in Toronto at Sunnybrook Hospital:

"A 56-year-old man had arrived at Sunnybrook that day with a fever and dry cough. The patient had just returned from a three-month visit to Wuhan, China, leaving two days before the Chinese government shut down the city’s buses, trains, ferries and airport. An X-ray of his lungs showed results consistent with a viral pneumonia.

The lab stayed open all night working on the specimen; they needed to be absolutely sure one way or the other. Fortunately, Chinese scientists had already determined the genetic code for the new coronavirus and shared the results internationally. “During SARS [in 2003], it took us more than four months to figure out what the virus was,” Allen says. “We didn’t have a test. We didn’t know who had it and who didn’t.”

Allen describes the test for the new coronavirus, known as COVID-19, as being akin to making photocopies of the genetic code in the patient’s sample, and amplifying it to see if it matches the genetic code of the novel coronavirus. In the case in question, the results confirmed the suspicion: both nose and throat swab samples from the patient came back positive. The 2019 novel coronavirus was officially in Canada."

So my question is: What's the problem in the US?

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
19. It's a wonder we've made it this far.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 02:42 PM
Feb 2020

Prior planning costs money, so we are always playing catch up. Republicans think prior planning is sunk money.

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